[Beastie]

I remember in Blue Banana they were selling Cannabis lollypops! Not sure if they still do and I have been meaning to try a SPACE CAKE.

[Stu]

Can't wait for the Dail Heil brigade to get here with their grave misunderstandings and joie de vivre.

[Iceman]

been a smoker of it for about 10 years now, never had anything bad happen except get arrested for it and at that I got a JLO, but was fine cause my sister is my legal guardian so I didnt get in trouble.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

It does very little harm in comparison to alcohol and tobacco, I say legalise it. I would be in favour of legalising all drugs really, regardless of how harmful they are, lets allow people to start making the decisions for themselves on things like this and stop having the government make it for them.

Actually.. Now.. I think you are right. Legalise the lot! We are all taught "not" to take them. Therefore if someone takes the cocaine and ecstasy and dies then it's their fault. It will take the drugs to be legalised to actually send out a message of how harmful the products can be.

[Stu]

Legalize Cannabis. Decriminalize the rest. I have no problem with something like LSD which can be a wonderful experience when done correct but the average Joe is a little too thick to be viable to gain access to it over the counter down the high street.

[Patrick]

Addressing people like Karl, Iceman and Stu who I assume know what they're talking about when it comes to this:

What are the chances of Cannabis ever being legalized in the UK?
If it's been proven to be good for your bones and less of a threat than Booze and Cigarettes then, why are the government still so strict about it?

My mate had an argument with a teacher a few months back about it and he basically stated that it will be legalized but it's 'just a matter of time'.

What are the chances really?

[Kerry]

Originally Posted by thebeast

Actually.. Now.. I think you are right. Legalise the lot! We are all taught "not" to take them. Therefore if someone takes the cocaine and ecstasy and dies then it's their fault. It will take the drugs to be legalised to actually send out a message of how harmful the products can be.

If people want it bad enough, they'll get it.

I'm in two minds about the 'harder' stuff. But like I say, it doesn't really deter people, it being illegal. Tricky one

[Kerry]

Would like tougher laws on drug-driving though but that goes for drink driving too. Sick of people thinking it's fine to do either and just getting a slap on the wrist

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Addressing people like Karl, Iceman and Stu who I assume know what they're talking about when it comes to this:

What are the chances of Cannabis ever being legalized in the UK?
If it's been proven to be good for your bones and less of a threat than Booze and Cigarettes then, why are the government still so strict about it?

My mate had an argument with a teacher a few months back about it and he basically stated that it will be legalized but it's 'just a matter of time'.

What are the chances really?

It is just a matter of time. That's the best answer I can give you. There are a multitude of reasons as to why it is still illegal. Ignorance, a lack of understanding about the substance, huge pressure from alcohol, tobacco and textile lobby groups, an unwillingness by the government to throw their hands up and admit that maybe they were wrong to ban it in the early part of the last century for reasons that had nothing whatsoever to do with your health ... the list goes on.

Big pharma companies don't want it because THC can alleviate a whole laundry list of medical ailemnts without side effects or constant pill popping. Vinters don't want it because god forbid people may drink less. Tobacco groups don't want it because it would render tobacco even more pointless and riddiculous than it already is.

Oh and it's very hard for the government to tax and make money off. It's a plant. Anyone can grow it.

[Twilight]

You already know what i think, i do not like the idea of any drugs.

[Kerry]

Originally Posted by Twilight

You already know what i think, i do not like the idea of any drugs.

What about legal ones? Paracetomol?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by thebeast

Actually.. Now.. I think you are right. Legalise the lot! We are all taught "not" to take them. Therefore if someone takes the cocaine and ecstasy and dies then it's their fault. It will take the drugs to be legalised to actually send out a message of how harmful the products can be.

Yeah I think responsibility should be given to the individual to use whatever substance they so wish. I dont think it's the role of the government to protect people from themselves and if someone wants to compromise their health by using drugs then they can go ahead, it's their choice at the end of the day. How far and to what great an extent I would go with this view I'm not too sure, but, generally, I think people should have the freedom and the responsiblity to take drugs if that is what they want to do.

Maybe I'm being a bit unrealistic with that but that is my belief on the issue

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Stu

It's a plant. Anyone can grow it.

Yeah i agree with this, it's the simplest of things, I grew it in my back shed for about a year and it wasnt hard at all...

One of the main pros I have for it is that you just relax when you smoke it and can just talk to people and feel chilled....

[Ramsay]

Well if that Prop passed in California there prob would be a way bigger chance of it legalising over here but it didnt..what was it like 54% said no? so close

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Yeah i agree with this, it's the simplest of things, I grew it in my back shed for about a year and it wasnt hard at all...

One of the main pros I have for it is that you just relax when you smoke it and can just talk to people and feel chilled....

I think people who think it makes you feel 'out of control' and who have never taken it probably think it's like some trippy version of getting drunk. It's nothing like that really. You can still walk, talk and act completely fine. You can think fine if needs be like a switch you can flick on and off. It just gives you this limitless capacity for fascination. TV becomes too interesting for it's own good, food tastes just fucking brilliant, and you just can't help but giggle at how good this whole life business is. It's completely useless on it's own. It's not a drug you can use to paper over cracks or drown things out. It enhances and brings to the fore whatever your current mood and activity is.

Well if that Prop passed in California there prob would be a way bigger chance of it legalising over here but it didnt..what was it like 54% said no? so close

It's still effectively decriminalized though. Cops won't fine you anymore for it. The prop would have just put it in writing. The vast, vast majority of no voters were ageing conservatives, unsurprisingly.



Check out these quotes from Harry J. Anslinger. The guy who got weed banned in America.

Plenty of lolz within.

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quotes...y+j.+anslinger

[Stephanie]

You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother.

[Ramsay]

It's still effectively decriminalized though. Cops won't fine you anymore for it. The prop would have just put it in writing. The vast, vast majority of no voters were ageing conservatives, unsurprisingly.

well yeah but if they did make it legal america would probably see the benifits of it and make it legal in their whole country and then UK would do the same after a while

[Ramsay]

''Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind.''

such a fooking idiot

[Iceman]

yeah i agree stu I mean the simplest way i can put it is if you watch TV ads like Harvey Norman, you know wher they keep saying SALE SALE BIG SALE. I was down in my mates a while ago and the ad came on for Harvey Norman and it was like "Harvey Norman are going to WAR. All prices SLASHED. Come before the SALE is over, remember we have SHOT down all prices, you can make a KILLING" now watching that without smoking I never noticed anything but when I was stoned I was like "oh **** this is some heavy propaganda **** going on....all the sordfs at the end related to War or hurting someone... so I said it to my mate and he hadnt smoked anything and was a bit freaked out bye me when I said..... "do you think they have an Army?" an hour later when he was stoned he replied "yeah they definitely have an army and we fell about laughing at how stupid it was.....

I dunno why I wrote all that??? :/

[Stu]

Yeah Karl. Where America goes the world follows. I honestly think it could happen here faster than in the UK. We need the money a lot more and the E.U. recently passed legislation that now allows member states to legalize drugs.

We [Cork branch of the Irish legalize group] are trying to get Howard Marks for our march this year .

Originally Posted by Iceman

yeah i agree stu I mean the simplest way i can put it is if you watch TV ads like Harvey Norman, you know wher they keep saying SALE SALE BIG SALE. I was down in my mates a while ago and the ad came on for Harvey Norman and it was like "Harvey Norman are going to WAR. All prices SLASHED. Come before the SALE is over, remember we have SHOT down all prices, you can make a KILLING" now watching that without smoking I never noticed anything but when I was stoned I was like "oh **** this is some heavy propaganda **** going on....all the sordfs at the end related to War or hurting someone... so I said it to my mate and he hadnt smoked anything and was a bit freaked out bye me when I said..... "do you think they have an Army?" an hour later when he was stoned he replied "yeah they definitely have an army and we fell about laughing at how stupid it was.....

I dunno why I wrote all that??? :/

Are you drunk?

Anyway, yeah. I love stoned convorsations. You know in your head they are bollocks but it's all part of the fun. We spent 20 minutes once setting out plans for a theme park in my backyard that would consist entirely of intercrossing zip lines run by an arch dandy Cheetah with a monocle and pimp cane.

That was after the bit where we envisioned FBI agents Dana Scully and Fox Mulder tracking everyones favourite layabouts down only to hit the bizong and chill out with them talking alien conspiracy lore.

[Ramsay]

hahaha thats class eoin
you might be on to something there
like that time i stayed up listening to charles mansons album all night
and got an itch to kill my family
but was too stoned and tired to do anything

[Ramsay]

one time me and fowley were really stoned playing call of duty
and i tried to get him to team kill for the laugh
then he got really scared and convinced me that if he team killed the person we killed would report us to xbox and xbox would find us and kill us
we got so freaked out

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by Karl

hahaha thats class eoin
you might be on to something there
like that time i stayed up listening to charles mansons album all night
and got an itch to kill my family
but was too stoned and tired to do anything

O_O

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by Karl

one time me and fowley were really stoned playing call of duty
and i tried to get him to team kill for the laugh
then he got really scared and convinced me that if he team killed the person we killed would report us to xbox and xbox would find us and kill us
we got so freaked out

and you enjoy these experiences?

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Stu

Are you drunk?

Anyway, yeah. I love stoned convorsations. You know in your head they are bollocks but it's all part of the fun. We spent 20 minutes once setting out plans for a theme park in my backyard that would consist entirely of intercrossing zip lines run by an arch dandy Cheetah with a monocle and pimp cane.

That was after the bit where we envisioned FBI agents Dana Scully and Fox Mulder tracking everyones favourite layabouts down only to hit the bizong and chill out with them talking alien conspiracy lore.

LOL no, I'm just really tired man.....anyway im off for 5 days of Pollin smoking see ya later!