[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Zippy

no thats your spin on it. You chat like she knew it was a poor song but was oh so desperate to tell the world its ok to be a freak! She and her cronies bigged the song up massively before release and you know it.

and this song sounds like a million techno poppy dancey clubby songs we've heard already. Are we still pretending she's original at this point?

that said, I quite like it. Not hugely but compared to BTW at least.

oh look she grabbed her crotch again.....never seen an artist do that before.

That's not my spin on it, that's what she's said in numerous interviews...plus it's kinda common sense not to put the best song on the album out as the first single kinda defeats the point of it.

And omg she grabbed her crotch I grabbed my crotch when I was 12, bitch copied me

-phones lawyers-

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Smithy

..plus it's kinda common sense not to put the best song on the album out as the first single kinda defeats the point of it.

actually artists usually put the strongest song out first to give the album a big debut. A weak lead single can kill an album(see Duffy and numerous others for examples) before it even gets going. Of course, they don't always choose right. But as a general rule its strongest first.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Zippy

actually artists usually put the strongest song out first to give the album a big debut. A weak lead single can kill an album(see Duffy and numerous others for examples) before it even gets going. Of course, they don't always choose right. But as a general rule its strongest first.

Umm, no it isn't, just look at the current album chart, Adele, Jessie J, Rihanna, Eminem, GaGa, P!nk, Paloma Faith, Katy Perry, Hurts, The Script all have better songs released after the debut single. You start with a strong song, but the strongest song on the album.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Umm, no it isn't, just look at the current album chart, Adele, Jessie J, Rihanna, Eminem, GaGa, P!nk, Paloma Faith, Katy Perry, Hurts, The Script all have better songs released after the debut single. You start with a strong song, but the strongest song on the album.

No. They may not be the strongest in YOUR opinion but they were all huge hit lead singles and could easily be considered to have been chosen for their obvious big hit potential.

regardless of whether BTW is the definite strongest(subjective) it was still considered to be amongst the strongest clearly. You've even just admitted that(see above). Now then.

[M X]

Originally Posted by Zippy

No. They may not be the strongest in YOUR opinion but they were all huge hit lead singles and could easily be considered to have been chosen for their obvious big hit potential.

regardless of whether BTW is the definite strongest(subjective) it was still considered to be amongst the strongest clearly. You've even just admitted that(see above). Now then.

Stop contradicting yourself.

The fact you think Born This Way is poor, is your opinion, not a fact.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Stop contradicting yourself.

The fact you think Born This Way is poor, is your opinion, not a fact.

do you even know what contradicting means?

Ive never ever said my opinion was fact. Duh.

Do you know what the word subjective means? I use it a lot.

[M X]

Originally Posted by Zippy

do you even know what contradicting means?

Ive never ever said my opinion was fact. Duh.

Do you know what the word subjective means? I use it a lot.

You have said Born This Way is poor. You didn't say that you think Born This Way is poor, yet you are so quick to tell someone else about "opinions and facts".