[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

How utterly patronising.

yes, dear.


a word you'd know a LOT about looking at your own comments!

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yesssss

And my reply was to a part of a post you made about her FACE, not body...

'As for her face - again, it's got to be digitially enhanced beyond all recognition for it to appear in the glossy mags. Anyone had a real look at the state of her skin, the mess her teeth are in - the shots that the paps get.'

Oh absolutely agree - many others do have to be digitally enhanced. My point is clear though - bodily, the model is in no shape to be on catwalks - given that some level of reasonable body condition is a pre-requisite. Add to that, my point was that her body isn't in good nick - and neither is her other main area - her face. So effectively - as far a any natural beauty goes: she's losing the race with mother nature.

Originally Posted by Zippy

yes, dear.


a word you'd know a LOT about looking at your own comments!

I used three words.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Oh absolutely agree - many others do have to be digitally enhanced. My point is clear though - bodily, the model is in no shape to be on catwalks - given that some level of reasonable body condition is a pre-requisite. Add to that, my point was that her body isn't in good nick - and neither is her other main area - her face. So effectively - as far a any natural beauty goes: she's losing the race with mother nature.

Hmm maybe. Personally I dont think she looks that bad generally, bodywise. Though a lot of other models wipe the floor with her, shes probably still got a better body than the average person does... I do think the above photo is a very bad photo. We all have off days and angles that dont agree with us

Shes definitely not in her prime anymore though, thats for sure.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

bodily, the model is in no shape to be on catwalks

there are many models on catwalks with worse bodies than hers, actually. Some are walking skeletons.

and there are only a handful of models who have her fame and presence on the catwalk. So your point is ridiculous really.

Her body is plenty good enough to wear fashion outfits. Even relatively skimpy outfits like above. Go look at the other shots from that catwalk show. Her ass looks perfectly fine in all but one of the shots. Which is, surprise surprise, the one shot thats been picked up on.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Zippy

there are many models on catwalks with worse bodies than hers, actually. Some are walking skeletons.

and there are only a handful of models who have her fame and presence on the catwalk. So your point is ridiculous really.

Her body is plenty good enough to wear fashion outfits. Even relatively skimpy outfits like above. Go look at the other shots from that catwalk show. Her ass looks perfectly fine in all but one of the shots. Which is, surprise surprise, the one shot thats been picked up on.

That's your opinion and it's not one I share.

Go search the amount of pictures that the media snap of her on beaches, hanging of windows, smiling and showing her grotty teeth, awful skin, spots, sagging skin, celluite legs. I'm not saying any of us are perfect - but a model should have some redeeming features - I see none in Kate Moss.

[Vicky.]

OMFG. I was curious as to be honest I havent seen that many photos of kate...so I google imaged her..and look what was on the first page



That looks SO wrong

(a bit offtopic, sorry, but it happened while searching on topic stuff )

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

OMFG. I was curious as to be honest I havent seen that many photos of kate...so I google imaged her..and look what was on the first page



That looks SO wrong

(a bit offtopic, sorry, but it happened while searching on topic stuff )

PMSL.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

..but a model should have some redeeming features - I see none in Kate Moss.

well of course you don't because youre not looking for any!

just wanna hate on her. Which makes your opinion worthless IMO.

I don't need to speak in her defense because the fact that she is still one of the worlds highest paid models after 22 years speaks volumes.

These are not idiots paying her huge sums they are serious businesses who want her name and her look. She doesnt get photoshopped any more or less than the 20 year old models would on a magazine cover. They can have bad skin as much as a 37 year old.

I think you'll find its her bone structure that makes her so photogenic and bone structure doesn't sag!

[Pyramid*]

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Zippy

well of course you don't because youre not looking for any!

just wanna hate on her. Which makes your opinion worthless IMO.

I don't need to speak in her defense because the fact that she is still one of the worlds highest paid models after 22 years speaks volumes.

These are not idiots paying her huge sums they are serious businesses who want her name and her look. She doesnt get photoshopped any more or less than the 20 year old models would on a magazine cover. They can have bad skin as much as a 37 year old.

I think you'll find its her bone structure that makes her so photogenic and bone structure doesn't sag!

Seriously have a look at the photos I've just put up and tell me you think she's got facial beauty....... there's more to it that bone structure - it's called computer ehancement - and by christ - it's obvious that she looks nothing remotely like her 'computer perfect' pictures.

Not any more -many year ago yes. Now, she's not got a hope in hell - she's a mess. Bone structure doesn't sag, but unhealthy aging skin does - her nasolaboid folds, wrinkles, skin tone, pimples, facial marks and hooded eyelids all disappear......it's a miracle!!!..... oh no, wait.....it's called digital editing.

I don't give two hoots whether you think my opinion is worthless or not. Means not a jot to me, what does mean something is showing just how bad this supermodel looks - it's only the computerised version that the gullible buy into, and those that promote her as something that she isn't.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Seriously have a look at the photos I've just put up and tell me you think she's got facial beauty....... there's more to it that bone structure - it's called computer ehancement - and by christ - it's obvious that she looks nothing remotely like her 'computer perfect' pictures.

Not any more -many year ago yes. Now, she's not got a hope in hell - she's a mess.

Oh wow youve found two bad pictures!

whoopee doo

I could go find 768 great pictures to counteract but Ill just let you make a fool of yourself.

Kate is STILL one of the worlds leading models. Sorry, she just is. And those catwalk pictures are not digitally enhanced so quit implying that every good picture of her face is photoshopped. She's been papped a million times out and about and only a few show her looking really awful and thats the ones that get published because it makes a better story...supermodel looking rough etc

please get a clue

ps. and if she gave a fck about her teeth looking perfect or her lines showing she could very easily get them fixed. The fact she doesnt give a damn is commendable in my eyes. She is what she is and has always never been afraid to show herself without make up...or botox.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Oh wow youve found two bad pictures!

whoopee doo

I could go find 768 great pictures to counteract but Ill just let you make a fool of yourself.

Kate is STILL one of the worlds leading models. Sorry, she just is. And those catwalk pictures are not digitally enhanced so quit implying that every good picture of her face is photoshopped. She's been papped a million times out and about and only a few show her looking really awful and thats the ones that get published because it makes a better story...supermodel looking rough etc

please get a clue

Oh there are plenty out there. Her non computerised enhanced catwalk pictures (like in my OP) show that bodily she's not model material anylonger, and in the other non improved facial ones - it shows the same.

Has been.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Zippy

ps. and if she gave a fck about her teeth looking perfect or her lines showing she could very easily get them fixed. The fact she doesnt give a damn is commendable in my eyes. She is what she is and has always never been afraid to show herself without make up...or botox.

Would that be a skanky looking single mother,known for getting smashed, coked out of her face, hanging about with druggies and having a very hedonistic lifestyle.....and looking twice her age..... yep, she is that alright!. PMSL

[Vicky.]

I sense a lot of hatred in here

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Oh there are plenty out there. Her non computerised enhanced catwalk pictures (like in my OP) show that bodily she's not model material anylonger, and in the other non improved facial ones - it shows the same.

Has been.

LOL. Please keep up

Ive already pointed out she is still one of the worlds highest paid models

but she's a has been and not model material any longer? Al'righty then.

Oh and speaking of photoshopped...I think you'll find that the picture youve posted of her looking dark and aged is photoshopped to make her look worse. LOL.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I sense a lot of hatred in here

PMSL.

I'm sensing someone denying the fact that Kate Moss isn't the beauty she's being made out to be. (not you btw... Zippy!)

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I'm sensing someone denying the fact that Kate Moss isn't the beauty she's being made out to be. (not you btw... Zippy!)

you started this bitchy hate thread out of the blue so it says much about you

women like you are just traitors to your own sex. Sad you have nothing better to start threads about than a woman who dares to get older and resist botox and fake teeth unlike every other female celeb.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Zippy

you started this bitchy hate thread out of the blue so it says much about you

women like you are just traitors to your own sex. Sad you have nothing better to start threads about than a woman who dares to get older and resist botox and fake teeth unlike every other female celeb.

I started this thread because of the nick of a overhyped model's body is in....and I have every right to do so if I wish to - without having to listen to personal insults from you or anyone else.

Unlike you, I am able to converse without resorting to personal insults on other forum members.

I don't have to stick by any member of sex - my own or any other. I think women should be allowed to grow older - I also think that Kate Moss and her modelling days are over - as these pictures (the genuine ones) show...and she should grow older gracefully - not by walking down catwalks with her saggy, wrinkly arse hanging out. Time for her to move out and move on - leaving the younger more toned youthful models to it.

[AJ.]

ahh who cares really? Just because she dares to walk down a catwalk with cellulite she should 'move out and move on - leaving the younger more toned youthful models to it'? You would rather all models be 18 & size 0? How sad would that be.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by DeejayAJ

ahh who cares really? Just because she dares to walk down a catwalk with cellulite she should 'move out and move on - leaving the younger more toned youthful models to it'? You would rather all models be 18 & size 0? How sad would that be.

No. I'd rather models be as healthy looking as they can be - you don't have to be a size zero to be that - nor should they be 18. There are models older than Kate Moss still look fabulous - in their size 10/12 and bigger. My point is that Kate Moss is clearly past it and cannot hold her own with some of the younger models - or some of the older ones who have taken the time to maintain their looks - in the very industry that looks are important (I mean from head to toe, not just facially).

I don't believe I necessarily 'care' - that doesn't negate me commenting on it though.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I also think that Kate Moss and her modelling days are over - as these pictures (the genuine ones) show...and she should grow older gracefully - not by walking down catwalks with her saggy, wrinkly arse hanging out. Time for her to move out and move on - leaving the younger more toned youthful models to it.

You really need to catch up

firstly, modelling isnt all about virginal young things these days. And given that ALL models of all ages are photoshopped a few wrinkles dont mean sh!t. Kate Moss still looks fantastic in magazine shoots and commercial campaigns. Which is exactly why she still gets paid millions.

As for catwalks, she retired from it in 2004. She has only done a few for special charity occasions since then. This comeback was for her friend Marc Jacobs. So its not even like she's still trying to be a catwalk model. She looks fantastic in the show and had the crowd cheering. Why? because she's a megastar model making a return to the catwalk. Unlike you, the crowd were not obsessed with looking for every wrinkle on her face and ass.

So get your facts right and quit trying to imply she's still trying to compete with teen models. They wish they had her fame and asking price.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Zippy

You really need to catch up

firstly, modelling isnt all about virginal young things these days. And given that ALL models of all ages are photoshopped a few wrinkles dont mean sh!t. Kate Moss still looks fantastic in magazine shoots and commercial campaigns. Which is exactly why she still gets paid millions.

As for catwalks, she retired from it in 2004. She has only done a few for special charity occasions since then. This comeback was for her friend Marc Jacobs. So its not even like she's still trying to be a catwalk model. She looks fantastic in the show and had the crowd cheering. Why? because she's a megastar model making a return to the catwalk. Unlike you, the crowd were not obsessed with looking for every wrinkle on her face and ass.

So get your facts right and quit trying to imply she's still trying to compete with teen models. They wish they had her fame and asking price.

I didn't need to be obsessed.....it's there for all to see. I see you are still up there with your contradictory comments.

She was photographed on a catwalk.......

[BB_Eye]

She's not really a supermodel these days in fairness to her. Even without all the wear and tear from her party lifestyle, she is too old to be doing what she used to.

It's true she still does a lot of promos and ads, but then so does Davina McCall.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I see you are still up there with your contradictory comments.

No, no contradiction. She isn't trying to still have a career as a catwalk model but just does it very rarely for special events. This was her first in 3 years.

keep clutching at straws

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Zippy

No, no contradiction. She isn't trying to still have a career as a catwalk model but just does it very rarely for special events. This was her first in 3 years.

keep clutching at straws

I didn't say she was still trying to have a career as a catwalk model.... did I.

I said that her body is in no fit state for her to be classed as a model - and certainly not flaunting it on a catwalk.