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CharlieO · 21-03-2011, 11:05 PM

yea

cub · 21-03-2011, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie

I understand some want to adopt kids but from the kids point of view is it not better to have a male and female role model and a bit of dare i say it "normality" in their home life?
When i say normality i mean have a mum and a dad, they have been through care or whatever and schools tough as it is, let alone when you have 2 dads instead of a mum and a dad

Why is it better?

There are lots of Widows bringing up small children alone? Is that not 'normality'?

Benjamin · 22-03-2011, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cub

Why is it better?

There are lots of Widows bringing up small children alone? Is that not 'normality'?

Exactly what I was going to say.

Niall · 26-03-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58

That's putting it mildly!

I know right!

Niall · 26-03-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

It's complicated but ya know if we made it illegal for gay couples to adopt it wouldn't stop them from having children. If they really really really want a child, what's stopping them from sucking it up and having a child with a member of the opposite sex?

Christ in heaven above.

Maybe because many gays don't like the idea of intercourse with the opposite sex? You might want to look up the word homosexual in the dictionary.

Grimnir · 26-03-2011, 03:24 PM

If they are a mature and responsible gay couple who have been together for a good number of years and you know they would be loving parents then yes they should be able to adopt children from foster care.
If it was a young gay couple in early 20s who have only been together a few months, go out on piss every weekend and had many relationships and not responsible then 100% NO.
The foster care agencies should decide case by case same as they do for any other couple straight or gay.

cub · 26-03-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Grimnir

If they are a mature and responsible gay couple who have been together for a good number of years and you know they would be loving parents then yes they should be able to adopt children from foster care.

What about a straight couple applying to that rule too?

Why should a gay couple have to prove they are any more responsible than a straight couple?

What are you suggesting about gay couples?

Shaun · 26-03-2011, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cub

What about a straight couple applying to that rule too?

Why should a gay couple have to prove they are any more responsible than a straight couple?

What are you suggesting about gay couples?

What are you suggesting about straight couples? That it's easier to adopt than it is to fill out a library card application form? Grimnir's merely pointing out the same kind of procedures and standards that adoption agencies look for in all couples, he's not suggesting that dem gayz have to prove something extra.

MTVN · 26-03-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cub

What about a straight couple applying to that rule too?

Why should a gay couple have to prove they are any more responsible than a straight couple?

What are you suggesting about gay couples?

Why on earth did you not the quote the bit which answers your very question - the guy clearly said "The foster care agencies should decide case by case same as they do for any other couple straight or gay".

You seem very keen to insinuate that people are being homophobic

Zippy · 26-03-2011, 04:24 PM

I think its right to question the nature of the couples relationship and how long theyve been together. The last thing an unwanted child needs is to be thrown into an unstable home where there could be more drama and disruption. They need stability. A lot of gay couples do not have that. Straight couples too.

Mr XcX · 26-03-2011, 06:08 PM

Yes.

letmein · 26-03-2011, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zippy

I think its right to question the nature of the couples relationship and how long theyve been together. The last thing an unwanted child needs is to be thrown into an unstable home where there could be more drama and disruption. They need stability. A lot of gay couples do not have that. Straight couples too.

Zippy · 26-03-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by letmein

wut?

this a debate forum

letmein · 26-03-2011, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Zippy

wut?

this a debate forum

And your point is?

Zippy · 26-03-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by letmein

And your point is?

oh piss off

Benjamin · 01-05-2011, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Zippy

I think its right to question the nature of the couples relationship and how long theyve been together. The last thing an unwanted child needs is to be thrown into an unstable home where there could be more drama and disruption. They need stability. A lot of gay couples do not have that. Straight couples too.

I'm glad you added the straight couples bit, was about to go off on one.

MusicMan · 01-05-2011, 09:32 AM

I haven't read the rest of the thread (22 pages is a mission) but I'm just gonna throw in my penny's worth

I think gay couples have all the right to adopt and although there is the issue that the child may face bullying at school for this and may develop psychological problems etc etc, this is a far better solution to have the child raised in a stable and loving home environment as opposed to an orphanage or with parents who are for example drug takers, which would probably lead to a lot more serious psychological problems!

And to put it bluntly, most children get bullied at one stage or another about so many different things, the issue is not to give in to the homophobes and the ignorant people, it's to tackle the bullying. Gay parents adopting in my opinion is more than fair on the child in my opinion if it means that the child is going to get a better life than if they stayed orphaned - it's the same with single / straight parents.

That's my contribution!

Benjamin · 30-08-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MusicMan

I haven't read the rest of the thread (22 pages is a mission) but I'm just gonna throw in my penny's worth

I think gay couples have all the right to adopt and although there is the issue that the child may face bullying at school for this and may develop psychological problems etc etc, this is a far better solution to have the child raised in a stable and loving home environment as opposed to an orphanage or with parents who are for example drug takers, which would probably lead to a lot more serious psychological problems!

And to put it bluntly, most children get bullied at one stage or another about so many different things, the issue is not to give in to the homophobes and the ignorant people, it's to tackle the bullying. Gay parents adopting in my opinion is more than fair on the child in my opinion if it means that the child is going to get a better life than if they stayed orphaned - it's the same with single / straight parents.

That's my contribution!

Probably one of the most sensible opinions I have heard on here in a while.