[Glenn.]

I'm going to start this as there is a pretty good chance, thoughts of a Scream 5 may be in the pipeline. Scream 4 has actually done pretty well at the box office world wide, and we still haven't had the DVD release, to bring in more pennies.

So here it is. THE Scream 5 (5cream) Discussion Thread.

P.S No bashing the box office numbers for Scream 4! Realistically speaking they are good enough for another movie as intended by the film company


First glimpse of a Scream 5 via Dimension Film's Twitter?

How much do you love @Scream4? How badly do you want #Scream5? Come up with a clever tweet and we’ll RT!

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[InOne]

If Hayden didn't die, all good

[Patrick]

-Will probably still use the Scream 4 Thread to discuss random Scream topics for a while-

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Patrick

-Will probably still use the Scream 4 Thread to discuss random Scream topics for a while-

Agreed. We've still got the DVD release for No. 4 yet.
OP should have waited until a Scream 5 is officially announced so that we can follow the news updates from there.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Agreed. We've still got the DVD release for No. 4 yet.
OP should have waited until a Scream 5 is officially announced so that we can follow the news updates from there.

Aww rumours and speculation are good enough.

BRING ON SCREAM 5.

Scream 4 was good but my least favourite of the franchise. I did like the random killings at the beginning though. I just think there was not much tension. Or when Emma Roberts was in that hospital room with Sidney, Gail and Dewey.. she had an opportunity to kill them all really but she didn't. I am glad she didn't. Emma Roberts wasn't bad but it was too teeny bopper ish.

Emma, Charlie and Charlie's friend.... mmm teeny boppers that ruined it a bit.

Kirby was an allright character though. I reckon she will come back.

So more tension has to be brought back.. maybe Sidney and Dewey have an affair and Gale goes psycho? lol who knows.

That's another thing. I loved Gale's and Dewey's "chemistry" in the first 3 scream films. But didn't really see much of it in Scream 4. Maybe it's because Courtney has had too much botox and David Arquette is not as good looking anymore. lol!

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by Beastie

Aww rumours and speculation are good enough.

BRING ON SCREAM 5.

Scream 4 was good but my least favourite of the franchise. I did like the random killings at the beginning though. I just think there was not much tension. Or when Emma Roberts was in that hospital room with Sidney, Gail and Dewey.. she had an opportunity to kill them all really but she didn't. I am glad she didn't. Emma Roberts wasn't bad but it was too teeny bopper ish.

Emma, Charlie and Charlie's friend.... mmm teeny boppers that ruined it a bit.

Kirby was an allright character though. I reckon she will come back.

So more tension has to be brought back.. maybe Sidney and Dewey have an affair and Gale goes psycho? lol who knows.

That's another thing. I loved Gale's and Dewey's "chemistry" in the first 3 scream films. But didn't really see much of it in Scream 4. Maybe it's because Courtney has had too much botox and David Arquette is not as good looking anymore. lol!

Please No, We all know how you get with rumours and speculation.

And LOL at the last comment - Dewey did change yeah, it was as if he was a kid inside a man's body in the old films and in Scream 4 his voice finally broke or something.

[Marsh.]

It's Courtney's botox binge and David's alcoholism which destroyed their chemistry.

[alexander10]

Scream 4 was so boring and i don't want to watch this series now.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Please No, We all know how you get with rumours and speculation.

And LOL at the last comment - Dewey did change yeah, it was as if he was a kid inside a man's body in the old films and in Scream 4 his voice finally broke or something.

Excuse me Paddy.. such as if BB12 was going to come back or not.. which myself a few others were right about all along!

I am pretty sure I am right about a Scream 5 happening too. Gail/Dewey/Sidney will have to be killed off sooner or later. Or at least one of them. Then the other 2 live happily ever after. Has to end somewhere.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

It's Courtney's botox binge and David's alcoholism which destroyed their chemistry.

Yeah probably this It needs to wrap up now. Make 2 more Scream films and end it.

I don't want Gale/Dewey/Sidney to all die then a new generation comes along.. then we will get a Scream 20.. :S It will become too much. Quality over quantity.

It's like the Saw films. 1, 2, 4 and 6 were good.

3, 5, 7.. not as good. lol

I like Saw.. I think they should do an 8th one though to end it all on a high. The 7th one didn't really end on a high. Or that should just finish all together.

[Marsh.]

If you wanted quality over quantity then they should stop now really.

But if anymore does happen, they won't go further than a Scream 6. At least not with the original cast, writers and Wes Craven.

It'll end up like Final Destination franchise after that with a whole new team and story.

[Toxic]

I think the hardcore scream fans (like myself) have made it known that we want Kirby back in the next film, and I think it is possible to bring her back as she was still alive in the last shot we saw her...is that just wishful thinking?

[Toxic]

Originally Posted by alexander10

Scream 4 was so boring and i don't want to watch this series now.

Boring? did we watch the same film? it was a great film, not the best out of the series but one of the best easily. It was so much better than the 'Paranormal acitvity' and 'saw' rubbish we get thrown at us all the time.

[Stu]

Granted Saw but Paranormal Activity was a fantastic, genuinly spooky piece of horror film made on a virtually non existent budget. Wes Craven is a douche. For all his complaining about what his favourite directors done to prove the law of diminishing returns with different horror franchises he goes on to do the exact same thing himself.

Scream is for teenagers. Scream 4 worked and worked well because of one thing : nostalgia.

[Glenn.]

'Scream 5' anticipated by Harvey Weinstein

Harvey Weinstein has revealed that he is expecting a fifth instalment of the Scream franchise, despite relatively poor domestic box office results for Scream 4.

The Weinstein Company head, who has executive produced each of the horror films, explained that a further sequel is likely under the helm of director Wes Craven.

He told MTV: "I'm sure [Wes is] going to do a sequel, I'm sure he's going to do a sequel."

Weinstein added that despite poor sales in the US, the fourth movie has performed far better worldwide.

He said: "Foreign [sales] are so strong that we'll do over $100 million worldwide. It's at $90 million now, with about five or six major countries to go and a lot of small ones. We'll probably do $110 million.

"I wish it would have been better domestically. But it's not the worst thing in the world that's ever happened."

Craven had previously described making Scream 4 as "stressful". The movie managed to top the UK box office upon release.

Link.
And there's a video too.

[Ross]

I loved Scream 4 so I'm excited for a potential Scream 5.

[Toxic]

Originally Posted by Glenn

'Scream 5' anticipated by Harvey Weinstein



Link.
And there's a video too.

Yayy! I just hope they really try with it and come up with a great, epic story. If they rush it like other franchises do (saw) then it might not be as good.

5CREAM HERE WE COME BABY!

['Conor]

i would love a Scream 5, but i don't get where they would go with it, like it would be a bit silly if the trio survived again.. maybe not have Sidney in the fifth installment at all?

[Marc]

I hope Kirby is still alive

[Glenn.]

Thought I resurrect this thread as there has been a couple of developments on the S5 front.

New quotes from Wes Craven

Wes Craven has broken radio silence! While the news on Scream 5 isn’t especially forward moving, it’s good to know where things stand for now, as well as what the director has been up to lately.

Touting the DVD and Blu-ray release of Scream 4 (arriving October 4), Wes Craven spoke to Shock Till You Drop this afternoon and informed us he hasn’t heard any word about Scream 5 just yet.

“Bob [Weinstein] doesn’t typically call until there’s something down on paper or something a writer can pitch to me,” Craven told us, “so I don’t expect to hear anything until Bob has that.”

Shortly after the release of the fourth film, the Weinstein brothers sounded confident when they told the press they expect Craven would return for a fifth film. Craven countered by saying he was going to take a summer vacation first. But now that fall has arrived, he’s diving into a few projects.

“I’m working on a comic book series, a book and I’m giving a talk about fear on October 14 in Chicago. Beyond that, my wife and I are building a house. We’re in the final weeks of that, so we’re getting our head out of work for a bit. We had My Soul to Take right before Scream 4, which was also difficult, so we said let’s sit back and smell the roses for a while,” he laughed.

“Yes. The odds are that there will be (a Scream 5). It is something that Bob Weinstein wants to do. He tends to do what he wants to do. So I am inclined to think that there will be (another sequel). Whether I will be a part of it or not? I don’t know. My contract gives me the first look. If they show me something that is really wonderful? Of course I will be a part of it.”

We followed this up by asking the iconic horror director where the trilogy was heading, as the end of Scream 4 leaves things open and ambiguous, and doesn’t really point us in a clear direction for a Scream 5.

“I’d have to kill you if I told you. Its better to have an ending where you can’t tell where it’s going to go next. Than to have an ending where you go, “Oh, that is the hook for the sequel. That is the hook for the next one.” We felt it was better to let the audience speculate than to have all of these clues placed in their lap. It’s not a matter of not being smart enough (to figure out how 4 ties into 5). We’re clever at this. Let’s just put it that way.”

Wes Craven then went onto explain how these movies are made, and how he is the last to know that a new sequel is ready.

” Most people think that I sit around and think up ideas. Then I send them to the studio. With Scream, that is not the case. Kevin Williamson has been the writer since day one. He has been the writer on all of these projects, at least at the beginning of them. That relationship with him and Bob Weinstein is very old, and close. Typically what will happen is that Bob Weinstein or Kevin Williamson will come up with a new idea, and they will pitch it to one or the other. If they both like it, they will toss it around and see if they can develop it into an overarching concept. Then I get the telephone call. They say, “We have something to show you.” It will either be a scene, or if it is Kevin Williamson, he will run through the idea with me from beginning to end. That is what happened on this one. There were a few pages. Not many. At some point there was a first draft. But it mainly started with me and Kevin Williamson sitting down in a restaurant in Los Angeles. He showed me how it would go, and I really thought he had something there. So I signed on. Before that point, I am at a position where I don’t want to be involved with something until the script is there. That makes me not a part of the original process, of banging out the idea. I think that Kevin Williamson is the best at that. And Bob Weinstein is all over that too. I don’t want to play another guy in that. Going into (Scream 4), the first meeting I had with Kevin Williamson, he did sketch out a Scream 5 and 6. The idea was that we were doing the first in a new trilogy. We had to wait to see if we made enough money on each film to make the next one viable. If that happens, those two will come up with the concepts and an idea that is worth fulfilling.”

News of the story being thought about now.

Buried within Wes Craven’s answers in a new interview with Arrow in the Head is general word that the Weinsteins are actively developing a Scream 5 idea right now which is a critical point of difference to the project up to recently being in a holding pattern.

SCREAM 4 certainly was conceived as the first of a new trilogy. Kevin [Williamson] sketched out a trilogy arc, that was the original concept. I’m sure the studio would like to do the rest of the trilogy, and it seems like the box office – the foreign sales – has justified doing another one. And then it’s a matter of a script that’s worthy of being the second installment.

From what I hear, that’s probably what Bob [Weinstein] is doing right now, trying to get to that second concept for a second film.

Overall Craven provides an insightful discussion as always, illuminating upon why Scream 4‘s aftermath scene was removed and how working with Bob Weinstein can sometimes be a real “scream” among other topics

['Conor]

hmm i don't know if i want an S5 or not

[Adamw92]

I don't see what Scream 5 could be about though, they killed off the whole new cast!

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

I don't see what Scream 5 could be about though, they killed off the whole new cast!

But they've still got the old cast.


Scream 5 should be where Sidney either dies, or becomes the killer [something we have all anticipated or expected since the second film tbh].


Then it would be a perfect ending to the franchise, but then again it's highly likely they will create a Scream 6 aswell as it is another trilogy.

So who knows?

I quite like the idea Stab 5 had - of time travel

[Mac Hiavellian]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

I don't see what Scream 5 could be about though, they killed off the whole new cast!

Scream 5 could be about 'sequels to remakes' by which they have a different story to the original's sequel but can have similar plot points e.g. The Hills Have Eyes 2 (2007) is set int he same desert as The Hills Have Eyes Part II but has a different story, and Rob Zombie's Halloween II (2009) starts off in the hospital which is where the 1981 Halloween II was set entirely. So a Scream 5 could take place in Windsor college like Scream 2 did perhaps for Sid's college reunion on campus meanwhile the current students (who may be an entirely new cast or may include Kirby as an in-joke about killing off favourites like Randy) are the ones being butchered. If Kirby is back the focus coudl eb on whether Sid is the star still or if it is Kirby liek how we were expected to believe Jill was the new star in Scream 4.

Imo Scream 6 would be about 'final movies' e.g. Saw: The Final Chapter, Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday, and Freddie's Dead: The Final Nightmare. It'd be similar to Scream 3 in the way that anything could happen, Sid could die, Gale and/or Dewey, Kirby, bring back any and all surviving characters form the previous 5 films and make them a suspect, have the Stab franchise end. Perhaps reference other horror movies again like the original Scream did. Really make it seem like a final movie to the franchise.

[Patrick]

For Scream 6, It needs to go out with a bang - and there's only one way that could happen:

Spoiler:

Randy returns and takes out Ghostface