Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Register to reply Log in to reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 01-06-2011, 12:26 AM #1
InOne's Avatar
InOne InOne is offline
R.I.P Kerry x
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Côte d'Ivoire
Posts: 37,710

Favourites (more):
CBB15: Patsy Kensit
Apprentice 2014: Roisin


InOne InOne is offline
R.I.P Kerry x
InOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Côte d'Ivoire
Posts: 37,710

Favourites (more):
CBB15: Patsy Kensit
Apprentice 2014: Roisin


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ElProximo View Post
It is yours.
It's why you believe that helping the homeless is 'morally good'. It's why you think equality is 'a good thing' to aim for.
It's why you think poor people ought to have social services.

These are things you not only accept as 'moral codes' but you don't even question them. It's nearly 'inherent' via your culture and upbringing,
and,
so much that you haven't even questioned them. Of course they are good! right?
You are probably scoffing in disbelief that I'm even talking about these as being questionable!
You have these 'moral presumptions' because of the Bible. You enjoy the benefits they bring but want to disassociate them from the source. Joker face is on you after all.
Is it? Because everything you said there doesn't have anything to do with that...
__________________
InOne is offline  
Old 01-06-2011, 02:36 AM #2
ElProximo's Avatar
ElProximo ElProximo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Great White North
Posts: 3,172

Favourites (more):
BB11: Ben
CBB7: Stephen
ElProximo ElProximo is offline
Senior Member
ElProximo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Great White North
Posts: 3,172

Favourites (more):
BB11: Ben
CBB7: Stephen
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by InOne View Post
Is it?
Yes, it is.

Quote:
Because everything you said there doesn't have anything to do with that...
Yes it does.

Now you know.
ElProximo is offline  
Old 01-06-2011, 11:59 AM #3
InOne's Avatar
InOne InOne is offline
R.I.P Kerry x
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Côte d'Ivoire
Posts: 37,710

Favourites (more):
CBB15: Patsy Kensit
Apprentice 2014: Roisin


InOne InOne is offline
R.I.P Kerry x
InOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Côte d'Ivoire
Posts: 37,710

Favourites (more):
CBB15: Patsy Kensit
Apprentice 2014: Roisin


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ElProximo View Post
Yes, it is.



Yes it does.

Now you know.
Well the Bible is a pretty awful place to get your morals from if you go by it wholeheartedly. No doubt you pick and choose the "nice" bits like many others.
__________________
InOne is offline  
Old 01-06-2011, 09:08 PM #4
ElProximo's Avatar
ElProximo ElProximo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Great White North
Posts: 3,172

Favourites (more):
BB11: Ben
CBB7: Stephen
ElProximo ElProximo is offline
Senior Member
ElProximo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Great White North
Posts: 3,172

Favourites (more):
BB11: Ben
CBB7: Stephen
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by InOne View Post
Well the Bible is a pretty awful place to get your morals from if you go by it wholeheartedly. No doubt you pick and choose the "nice" bits like many others.
Actually, idiotic half-witted 'atheist' websites are a pretty awful place to get your information from.

But let's save time and get to the heart of it:
By what standard do you judge some Jewish Laws as 'awful' and others as 'nice' anyways?
What standard of morality are you using to make those judgments?
ElProximo is offline  
Old 02-06-2011, 05:51 PM #5
InOne's Avatar
InOne InOne is offline
R.I.P Kerry x
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Côte d'Ivoire
Posts: 37,710

Favourites (more):
CBB15: Patsy Kensit
Apprentice 2014: Roisin


InOne InOne is offline
R.I.P Kerry x
InOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Côte d'Ivoire
Posts: 37,710

Favourites (more):
CBB15: Patsy Kensit
Apprentice 2014: Roisin


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ElProximo View Post
Actually, idiotic half-witted 'atheist' websites are a pretty awful place to get your information from.

But let's save time and get to the heart of it:
By what standard do you judge some Jewish Laws as 'awful' and others as 'nice' anyways?
What standard of morality are you using to make those judgments?
How do you know I'm Atheist? Another silly Christian presumption. Morality comes from a more animalistic place. It's deep within. Because let's face it, a book isn't going to tell people what to do. People know the so called morals of the Bible, but how many actually follow them? Apart from the ones who pick and choose
__________________

Last edited by InOne; 02-06-2011 at 05:51 PM.
InOne is offline  
Old 02-06-2011, 05:52 PM #6
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 106,906


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 106,906


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by InOne View Post
How do you know I'm Atheist? Another silly Christian presumption. Morality comes from a more animalistic place. It's deep within. Because let's face it, a book isn't going to tell people what to do. People know the so called morals of the Bible, but how many actually follow them? Apart from the ones who pick and choose
The Celtic people had strong morals before the idiot jesus cult arrived from the middle east.
Crimson Dynamo is offline  
Old 02-06-2011, 05:53 PM #7
InOne's Avatar
InOne InOne is offline
R.I.P Kerry x
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Côte d'Ivoire
Posts: 37,710

Favourites (more):
CBB15: Patsy Kensit
Apprentice 2014: Roisin


InOne InOne is offline
R.I.P Kerry x
InOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Côte d'Ivoire
Posts: 37,710

Favourites (more):
CBB15: Patsy Kensit
Apprentice 2014: Roisin


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
The Celtic people had strong morals before the idiot jesus cult arrived from the middle east.
Yep, Christians seem to think they invented a conscience or something.
__________________
InOne is offline  
Old 03-06-2011, 01:16 AM #8
ElProximo's Avatar
ElProximo ElProximo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Great White North
Posts: 3,172

Favourites (more):
BB11: Ben
CBB7: Stephen
ElProximo ElProximo is offline
Senior Member
ElProximo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Great White North
Posts: 3,172

Favourites (more):
BB11: Ben
CBB7: Stephen
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
The Celtic people had strong morals before the idiot jesus cult arrived from the middle east.
You and the other one mistakenly believe that Christians or Jews believe morality came from the Bible.

Having said that, Celts had moral standards that you would find absolutely horrifying today. You would say are 'Immoral'.

And you also have this question to answer first:
What do you mean by 'strong morals' and this is asking you by what standard do you judge them as 'strong'?
By what 'measure' are you judging their morals as 'strong' or not?

Try and answer that.
ElProximo is offline  
Old 02-06-2011, 11:44 PM #9
ElProximo's Avatar
ElProximo ElProximo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Great White North
Posts: 3,172

Favourites (more):
BB11: Ben
CBB7: Stephen
ElProximo ElProximo is offline
Senior Member
ElProximo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Great White North
Posts: 3,172

Favourites (more):
BB11: Ben
CBB7: Stephen
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by InOne View Post
How do you know I'm Atheist?
I don't but your rhetoric is parroted from silly atheist and antichristian propaganda.


Quote:
Another silly Christian presumption.
No it isn't.

Quote:
Morality comes from a more animalistic place.
What do you mean by 'animalistic'?

Quote:
It's deep within.
That is what the Bible documents and claims for. Judeo-Christian thought (others too) but that it is an inherent moral compass.

Quote:
Because let's face it, a book isn't going to tell people what to do.
It most definitely does guide people. the foundation of your society based on a book.
But it isn't the 'book telling' anyways. Nobody thought the book itself was a 'person'.

Quote:
People know the so called morals of the Bible, but how many actually follow them? Apart from the ones who pick and choose
To save time let's get to your 'winking' crap. You saw a website (or a comedian who saw a website) listing laws given to Israelites and then what is (or is not) for Jews and Christians entering the New Covenant.

This lame thing where Ricky Gervais or someone says "They follow the part about no gays but wont choose the ban on Shellfish".

Oh no. It turns out you are ignorant.

But what I'd still like to know is by what authority can you make these moral judgements?
How do I know your 'deep animal' judgment of bible morality is right?
Or better?
You can claim to have superior morals but how would we decide that? By what 'ruler'?
ElProximo is offline  
Register to reply Log in to reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
code, moral


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:37 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts