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Originally Posted by Grimnir

this is what should happen in libya

NATO stop bombing immediately and UN try to organise a ceasefire

libyan spokespeople have said many times they want end to the violence

once ceasefire established there should be an election inside libya

this election should be monitored by neutral countries, no one from europe or america

if gaddafi loses the election he stands down, if he wins through democratic election then this shows the majority support him

west needs to **** out of libya and stop getting involved

none of this will happen though because they want regime change for their own agenda yet again

arab spring is just the excuse and means by which they achieve their goals

I agree with all that really, even though most of it as you say will never likely happen.

This is in some ways like IRAQ,we claimed a different agenda going into Iraq but we did always intend to get rid of Saddam Hussein, here although under the NATO umbrella, that is again what we really want to happen.

I believe we were 100% wrog to get militarily involved in Libya and that we should refuse to take any further part.
Give the talking a chance now as you also again said.The real reason behind all this though is a 3 letter word, oil.