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Originally Posted by rhino

Of course Ed Miliband is saying all the right things, he is not under the same pressure as Cameron, the NOTW situation is a gift to him, he'll milk it dry, talk is easy to him he doesn't have to put it into action.

Yes, the public want to see distance between Murdoch and Cameron, but that isn't going to be that simple, Cameron has inherited this relationship with the Murdoch that goes way back, he didn't suddenly start it and it's going to take time to create that distance and Murdoch has such power, of course Cameron will be nervous about how damaging it will all be for him to break off the relationship. This is just another mess that Cameron has inherited and has the nightmare of trying to clean up. As someone has posted, he's damned either way.

You're right Joey, he's still not high in the polls, that's why this will be used as a weapon to bring him down further. But if it wasn't this it would have been something else, no one seems to want him to suceed, so he's not really going to be given a chance.

As Livia said, this is just diverting from the actual situation and the real people responsible. David Cameron is just an easy target, and if the focus is on him, the problem will never get solved

I am absolutely no fan of Ed Miliband rhino, but people are listening to him on this issue,rightly or wrongly.
Cameron should have had the foresight, he is the PM after all,to ensure he was the one seen to be taking the initiative,not allowing Miliband to gather in so much ammunition.


As I said above, Cameron is the PM now, he has to distance himself from the Murdoch empire with credibility,inherited or not, it's something he should have done now, but need to do instantly.He is the PM, watching old newsreel back, I bet Margaret Thatcher would never have got caught out like this.

The expenses scandal was an issue that Brown was sort of left to clean up and do something about, few believe he did or has, he paid the (in part) price for that with a drumming at the ballot box,this issue could well turn into Camerons equivalent of that scandal and he isn't seen to be doing much at all, being made to drag his heels to every thing that needs to be done.

The poll rating is the main one though, there are many disgruntled voices in the Conservative party who are still asking how on earth did Cameron not win an overall majority in the easiest election ever for an opposition party to win,with a reckless Labour govt in deep trouble and a PM in Brown who had become a standing joke.
The fact that the Conservatives only polled 36% in the election and have rarely been above that since in the polls,is further damage to Cameron, this scandal and his at best only fair responses to the issues as yet may take his poll ratings down from low to even lower and that will be seen as massive failure by the Conservative party.

I feel sorry for Cameron, he has the deficit to deal with, the economy is still in poor shape,the recovery still extremely fragile, inflation higher, he has the added noose of Nick Clegg and his band of two faced deceivers around his neck, yapping like ankle biters all the time and now this scandal.

All the more reason to take full and assertive control, put all old loyalties aside and be the PM not like an assistant who has to be led by others to do and say the right things 'eventually'.
Failure to do so, will just continue to fuel the negatives as to his judgement,his reasons and moreso his competence.

He is the PM of the UK and sadly on issues like this all eyes and ears are on him,by having to be dragged near kicking and screaming to do anything he unfortunately makes himself an easy target for those who would bring him down, even worse for him is that many in his party have wanted that since he failed to get an overall majority and has then had to cosy up to the Lib Dems to be able to govern at all.

Had he not been able to get their support, he would have been gone a short time after the election.