[Livia]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Short of locking your kids in the house though, nailing their windows shut etc.(which is probably classed as child abuse) how on earth could you stop your child from joining in with what their mates are doing? Especially the late teenage children.

It's not my problem that some people can't control their children. I would have thought it important to instill into your kids a sense of right and wrong, teach them what respect actually means and that it's not a word that was made up by MTV. And if that's not possible, parents should be ready to give up things in order to make amends.

Maybe some people should think longer and harder about whether they should have kids; remind them that, once they're finished dressing their little babies like dollies, there is a job to do to make them into responsible members of society. Otherwise we might as well say, no need to teach your kids to be responsible members of society because there is no come-back at all on the feckless parents, and the rest of us will pick up the tab.