[Saph]

Originally Posted by Josy

Well he obviously "gives a crap" as would any decent parent, it must be extremely difficult being away from his kid when he's used to being around him most of the time.

Obviously he cares about his own son, but no one else does. Its so annoying when housemates constantly go on about their kids, if they really loved them that much they wouldnt go on the show in the first place. There always seems to be one every year..

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Livia

This isn't about biscuits. It's about the cupcake. However, as you brought it up... Tom did take a couple of biscuits and shared them around. If you'd slipped the blinkers off for a minute you'd have noticed that Rebeckah ate one too even though she also knew they didn't belong to her. However, it was Rebeckah that went running into the bedroom and told Jay and the others "Oh my God! Heaven's in there eating everything!". and now she's denying it. Rebeckah: Pants. On. Fire.

well Heaven might well have been eating everything..they only showed us a clip how do you know she hadn't already eaten 10 or something

[Livia]

Originally Posted by SaphLiike

Obviously he cares about his own son, but no one else does. Its so annoying when housemates constantly go on about their kids, if they really loved them that much they wouldnt go on the show in the first place. There always seems to be one every year..

Bit of a simplistic view. I don't have kids, but I get where he's coming from. And to say if he loved his kids he wouldn't have gone in the house is just about the daftest thing I've read today, in a long line of daft things.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

well Heaven might well have been eating everything..they only showed us a clip how do you know she hadn't already eaten 10 or something

Because at the time Rebeckah was doing her little grass act, Heaven was still in there with Tom. And in any case, it would have been better for her to talk to Heaven herself, rather than grass, wouldn't it?

I'm amazed that you don't seem to see any bad at all in a woman who gives women in general a bad name. A woman who earns her money from giving sexual favours to men, while bemoaning the fact that men have no respect for her.

[David R]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I thought as much. That's not how it came across at all. He told the truth, you have no concept whats so ever of how much a child will impact on your life till you have one. That's a fact.

Reminded me of this...

Youtube video

[fruit_cake]

I agree, kids change your whole life..I can't even remember what life was like before and it wasn't all that long ago.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by David R

Reminded me of this...

Youtube video

yeah....................except we are actually talking about having kids............

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

that's true I agree it would be better later on but she obviously felt guilty and sorry for him so wanted to set things straight in the moment..everyone can make difficult judgements in the heat of the moment. His behaviour was very intimidating, especially to Maisy and all over a silly cake.

It's only intimidating if you don't respect others,where do you draw the line on what people can just take from you without asking?

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Livia

Because at the time Rebeckah was doing her little grass act, Heaven was still in there with Tom. And in any case, it would have been better for her to talk to Heaven herself, rather than grass, wouldn't it?

I'm amazed that you don't seem to see any bad at all in a woman who gives women in general a bad name. A woman who earns her money from giving sexual favours to men, while bemoaning the fact that men have no respect for her.

Rebeckah has made a lot of bad moves which I don't think I would personally make but I don't think she particularly means to be nasty she just doesn't know how to control herself properly for her own good. I don't think she gives women a bad name..I couldn't care less about 'sexual favours' or whatever for men. I don't care about men or what they want for their sexual favours..My life does not revolve around men or male agendas. In that way I have the same view of the world as Rebeckah.

My opinion is that it's the obsessive haters who give women a bad name. They're much worse and there's many more of them. I'm entitled to my opinion even if it makes me unpopular with the hysterical hate mob.

[David R]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

yeah....................except we are actually talking about having kids............

I'm not denying its hard work its just Aaron is talking about it on national TV like it was something unbelievably surprising. Parenting = hard work, jeez who would have seen that one coming!

Would you go on a reality show and moan about how hard parenting is? and to a bunch of people who don't have kids? Sure you can feel it deep down but saying it out loud just makes you look ungrateful in my opinion.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by kazanne

It's only intimidating if you don't respect others,where do you draw the line on what people can just take from you without asking?

Maisy shouldn't have put her finger in the cake, but to make a huge moral issue about it is way way OTT in my view. If it were my cake I'd probably have told her to have it if it would make her happy as it would also have made her fat instead of me.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Rebeckah has made a lot of bad moves which I don't think I would personally make but I don't think she particularly means to be nasty she just doesn't know how to control herself properly for her own good. I don't think she gives women a bad name..I couldn't care less about 'sexual favours' or whatever for men. I don't care about men or what they want for their sexual favours..My life does not revolve around men or male agendas. In that way I have the same view of the world as Rebeckah.

My opinion is that it's the obsessive haters who give women a bad name. They're much worse and there's many more of them. I'm entitled to my opinion even if it makes me unpopular with the hysterical hate mob.

You hate men then?

[Saph]

Originally Posted by Livia

Bit of a simplistic view. I don't have kids, but I get where he's coming from. And to say if he loved his kids he wouldn't have gone in the house is just about the daftest thing I've read today, in a long line of daft things.

Its not daft at all, if you have a child that you love and you go into a house for a maximum of 9 weeks, you're going to miss them without a doubt. But sitting in the DR moaning and whinging about how much you miss them isnt going to make time fly faster.. I'd miss my dogs for 9 weeks let alone a child, I dont see why they put themselves through it, he knew what he signed up for when he auditioned so he should just live with it and just have fun

[Livia]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Rebeckah has made a lot of bad moves which I don't think I would personally make but I don't think she particularly means to be nasty she just doesn't know how to control herself properly for her own good. I don't think she gives women a bad name..I couldn't care less about 'sexual favours' or whatever for men. I don't care about men or what they want for their sexual favours..My life does not revolve around men or male agendas. In that way I have the same view of the world as Rebeckah.

My opinion is that it's the obsessive haters who give women a bad name. They're much worse and there's many more of them. I'm entitled to my opinion even if it makes me unpopular with the hysterical hate mob.

Neither does my life revolve around men and their agendas. But I don't see them as a sub-species like Rebeckah does, saying how much she hates them while wriggling around half naked with her finger in her mouth. If anyone's an obsessive hater, it's Rebeckah herself. Good luck to her getting another job in a "gentleman's club" now that everyone knows how she thinks, and good luck teaching kids to dance now we've all seen the pouty, arse-in-the-air pictures.

You're not unpopular, fruitcake; it's your view on Rebeckah that's unpopular.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by SaphLiike

Its not daft at all, if you have a child that you love and you go into a house for a maximum of 9 weeks, you're going to miss them without a doubt. But sitting in the DR moaning and whinging about how much you miss them isnt going to make time fly faster.. I'd miss my dogs for 9 weeks let alone a child, I dont see why they put themselves through it, he knew what he signed up for when he auditioned so he should just live with it and just have fun

Maybe he is doing it for his son,lots of men are away from their kids,and miss them and you can bet they talk about them all the time ,I'de much rather listen to Aaron talking about his kids than some the boys in there who are led by their dongas! and is all they talk about ,then you got Rebecka droning on about Aden being there for her,now THAT is boring.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by kazanne

You hate men then?

no, I don't hate men. I don't think Rebeckah does either really..it's Heaven that seems to be the main point of her anger from what I can see. She just hates all the sloppy disgusting punters that she probably has to deal with day in day out and has trouble diferentiating them out from other men in the world. That's why she's starting to like Aden because he's been there for her so far in my view.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

no, I don't hate men. I don't think Rebeckah does either really..it's Heaven that seems to be the main point of her anger from what I can see. She just hates all the sloppy disgusting punters that she probably has to deal with day in day out and has trouble diferentiating them out from other men in the world. That's why she's starting to like Aden because he's been there for her so far in my view.

Well isn't she in control of how she earns money?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by David R

I'm not denying its hard work its just Aaron is talking about it on national TV like it was something unbelievably surprising. Parenting = hard work, jeez who would have seen that one coming!

Would you go on a reality show and moan about how hard parenting is? and to a bunch of people who don't have kids? Sure you can feel it deep down but saying it out loud just makes you look ungrateful in my opinion.

It's called having a conversation. Makes you look ungrateful for what btw?

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Livia

Neither does my life revolve around men and their agendas. But I don't see them as a sub-species like Rebeckah does, saying how much she hates them while wriggling around half naked with her finger in her mouth. If anyone's an obsessive hater, it's Rebeckah herself. Good luck to her getting another job in a "gentleman's club" now that everyone knows how she thinks, and good luck teaching kids to dance now we've all seen the pouty, arse-in-the-air pictures.

You're not unpopular, fruitcake; it's your view on Rebeckah that's unpopular.

well be that as it is Livia she's my chosen housemate for the moment and I'm gonna stick with her I don't care how much it takes to turn it around. I've noticed that you yourself haven't obviously selected anyone just yet.

In my view the chaos the Rebeckah has caused pails into insignificance compared with the resultant witch hunt and beying for her blood that has followed. Nobody deserves that even when they make mistakes like Rebeckah has made..She's not a bad person, just a misguided one in my view..and that's why I stick up for her. Maybe one day I'll realise I was wrong but so far I don't see anything to make me backtrack.

I also see lots of nice things in her, that she's honest, exciting and straight to the point.

Aaron would have been far too easy a choice for me and I like seeing how things can change even when you least expect it but there you go.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Well isn't she in control of how she earns money?

I don't know how she earn's her money whether she is paid by the hour or what I have no idea..what I do know is what it feels like to be slobbered over and touched up by that type of man, and how they can turn nasty and angry. She certainly earns the money.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

well be that as it is Livia she's my chosen housemate for the moment and I'm gonna stick with her I don't care how much abuse it takes to turn it around. I've noticed that you yourself haven't obviously selected anyone just yet.

In my view the chaos the Rebeckah has caused pails into insignificance compared with the resultant witch hunt and beying for her blood that has followed. Nobody deserves that even when they make mistakes like Rebeckah has made..She's not a bad person, just a misguided one in my view..and that's why I stick up for her. Maybe one day I'll realise I was wrong but so far I don't see anything to make me backtrack.

Aaron would have been far too easy a choice for me and I like seeing how things can change even when you least expect it but there you go.

No, I haven't selected anyone this year, really. I didn't in CBB either. It's been hard through lack of choice, in my opinion. Rebeckah is your choice as a favourite, you do a great job of sticking up for her. But as the majority are against her your job is very hard.

Nothing I have said has been about you personally. Not at all. I hope you haven't taken anything I've said that way. You're on my 'friends' list, for goodness sake!

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Livia

Nothing I have said has been about you personally. Not at all. I hope you haven't taken anything I've said that way. You're on my 'friends' list, for goodness sake!

aww relax babe I haven't taken anything in the wrong way..this is an internet forum for Christs sake..I wish I had something more useful to fulfill my time right at the moment tbh..'Pyramid' and I clearly don't get on very well but like I say things can change fast just like in the big brother house. Sometimes your worst enemies become your best friends and visaversa I've found.

[lime]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I don't know how she earn's her money whether she is paid by the hour or what I have no idea..what I do know is what it feels like to be slobbered over and touched up by that type of man, and how they can turn nasty and angry. She certainly earns the money.

TBF Rebecah has chosen to do that for a living ,which I have no problem with, I actually thought fair play to her when I heard her VT for been upfront about it.
But she apparently has other skills so she could leave at any time rather than making herself out to be a victim ie telling Mark about all the terrible things she has to do to get money for the poor children...couldn't she do voluntary work with them instead

[lisa12000]

My god i think this board is nice compared to the DS board!! ive been shot down in flames a 1000 times already this series lol

(in reply to people falling out on the forum lol)

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by lisa12000

My god i think this board is nice compared to the DS board!! ive been shot down in flames a 1000 times already this series lol

(in reply to people falling out on the forum lol)

Hello!I'm Vanessa! You're right. This forum is nice compared to other forums i've been in. Poor Aaron misses his son. hat's why he gets so upset. Bless him!