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Raven · 10-10-2011, 03:07 PM

Gem has only got to have seen the "I'm not in here to make friends, it is a game and I'm going to play it" to have concerns that this supposed relationship is just part of aarons 'game' and that her sister is being used. Plus him blowing hot and cold, the maisy thing, the confusion and upset it has caused Faye.... More than enough for a sister to want to warn Faye to cool it and be careful.

Kazanne · 10-10-2011, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Why did Jem make out to Faye that Aaron had been saying bad stuff about her? I've never heard him say anything but good stuff about her, in the Diary Room and to other HMs, yet it seemed to me Jem was implying that he had and she knows as she's been watching the show

Yes Niamh,it was a bit spiteful of her to do that,Aaron has always spoke well of Faye,maybe big sis is jealous.

Cromwell1900 · 10-10-2011, 03:10 PM

Another strange thing Gem said was (is Aaron making you smoke). Where is she getting these ideas from, unless she just wants to cool Faye down on Aaron

Kazanne · 10-10-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven

Gem has only got to have seen the "I'm not in here to make friends, it is a game and I'm going to play it" to have concerns that this supposed relationship is just part of aarons 'game' and that her sister is being used. Plus him blowing hot and cold, the maisy thing, the confusion and upset it has caused Faye.... More than enough for a sister to want to warn Faye to cool it and be careful.

Surely you don't believe that was the only part she's seen

she's seen it all alright ,the Maisy kiss has been way over blown,and it has been explained numerous times

Faye has also blown hot and cold,Aaron likes Faye,it's plain to see.

Pyramid* · 10-10-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58

Jemma didn't say that Aaron had been badmouthing Faye, she actually said to her "how do you know he hasn't" which is far more insiduous and was obviously said to make Faye paranoid. I don't think she's trying to protect Faye at all, it smacks to me of jealousy.

I agree, I think she is jealous of Faye - even right down to her making mention of them being competitive and Jem saying, "She's got to have more friends that me"......

Since when did one sister having more friends than the other way ever become a consideration between them. They are two different people - one is bound to have more friends than the other one - it only needs a differential of one to be effective.

She's jealous. And I think that's why she's making a play for Jay - remember, Faye fancied Jay, but he wasn't interested in Faye - he was interested in Louise.

Beso · 10-10-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

You obviously haven't read my OP properly. I didn't say she couldn't have an opinion on their relationship, what I said was she basically implied to Faye that Aaron had been saying bad things about her.............which is untrue, unless she's been given some access to live feed that none of us were shown.

She obviously had an opinion on her relationship hence the questions!! If she had seen anything I'm sure she would have said outright.

Niamh. · 10-10-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

She obviously had an opinion on her relationship hence the questions!! If she had seen anything I'm sure she would have said outright.

She couldn't say it outright as It would against the rules for her to mention what she saw of the programme.

Raven · 10-10-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kazanne

Surely you don't believe that was the only part she's seen

she's seen it all alright ,the Maisy kiss has been way over blown,and it has been explained numerous times

Faye has also blown hot and cold,Aaron likes Faye,it's plain to see.

According to you... to me what is plain to see is a manipulative greeseball playing games with a young lasses emotions, with Toms emotions, trying it on with maisy (Which he wouldn't have done had he actualy felt anything for Faye), etc. But just as you won't accept him ever doing anything wrong, I don't trust the creep and will therefore suspect his intentions.

If Gem's PoV is closer to mine than to yours then her actions make a great deal of sense.

Beso · 10-10-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

She couldn't say it outright as It would against the rules for her to mention what she saw of the programme.

She could still have said it..the punishments aren't hardly worth a fart.

Kazanne · 10-10-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Didn't she say there had been a family tragedy - not a death. A tragedy doesn't automatically mean death. I'm absolutely sure she didn't say someone had passed away or died - I'm 99%sure she said tragedy - which could mean anything - that the family regard as tragic.

I think an uncle had a heart attack or stroke but is ok now.

Niamh. · 10-10-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

She could still have said it..the punishments aren't hardly worth a fart.

She would have been lying though if she actually came out and said he was saying stuff behind her back, because he wasn't, which lets her imply he was under the cover that she's not allowed say anything directly.

Beso · 10-10-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

She would have been lying though if she actually came out and said he was saying stuff behind her back, because he wasn't, which lets her imply he was under the cover that she's not allowed say anything directly.

Sorry but that's complete bollox, she just never thought what she was saying could be taken another way..simple mistake you're looking to deep in on this one I'm afraid.

Kazanne · 10-10-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven

According to you... to me what is plain to see is a manipulative greeseball playing games with a young lasses emotions, with Toms emotions, trying it on with maisy (Which he wouldn't have done had he actualy felt anything for Faye), etc. But just as you won't accept him ever doing anything wrong, I don't trust the creep and will therefore suspect his intentions.

If Gem's PoV is closer to mine than to yours then her actions make a great deal of sense.

I wont see wrong in someone who has done nothing wrong,when he and maisy kissed it was at a time Faye had said she didn'y fancy him,she fancied jay,so maybe its faye who is the false one,Toms as most of us know by now was a bet and aaron put him right about that as Tom obviously thought or wanted more,YOU don't have to trust him,but from the shower in there he and harry,maybe Alex are the only ones I would ever trust,that is my opinion hope that's ok with you.

joeysteele · 10-10-2011, 03:31 PM

Well she is bound to be more jealous of Faye, Faye is a stunner really while Jemma looks like she's had a very hard paper round,(I think the expression goes like that).

Of what we've seen,she hasn't as yet bad mouthed Aaron in the diary room though,she just keep saying she thinks he is shy but she'll work on him.

Niamh. · 10-10-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Sorry but that's complete bollox, she just never thought what she was saying could be taken another way..simple mistake you're looking to deep in on this one I'm afraid.

Well, her reply to Faye saying that he says nice things about her in the Diary Room was "How do you Know" she knows he does but she was making out to Faye that he doesn't.

Beso · 10-10-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, her reply to Faye saying that he says nice things about her in the Diary Room was "How do you Know" she knows he does but she was making out to Faye that he doesn't.

Has he always said nice things about her?

She was just being protective..no point in me arguing that fact to you cause it's clear as day.

Niamh. · 10-10-2011, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Has he always said nice things about her?

She was just being protective..no point in me arguing that fact to you cause it's clear as day.

Yes, I've never heard him say anything bad about her, only good stuff.

Sounded more like trying make her paranoid than being protective. How can lying to someone protect them. If she doesn't think he's genuine fair enough but making up things to put doubt in Fayes head isn't a very genuine way to help her sister.

Beso · 10-10-2011, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes, I've never heard him say anything bad about her, only good stuff.

Sounded more like trying make her paranoid than being protective. How can lying to someone protect them. If she doesn't think he's genuine fair enough but making up things to put doubt in Fayes head isn't a very genuine way to help her sister.

She never made anything at all, how can you say that? she was asking faye general questions about how sure she was of aaron.

joeysteele · 10-10-2011, 03:38 PM

He has expressed doubts concerning their closeness,especially just after the Maisy incident but he has never to my knowledge run her down at all,in the house or the diary room.

Now, he seems to really like her and I'd say more than just really like her.

Cromwell1900 · 10-10-2011, 03:39 PM

Gem's just being Hyper critical of the Lad like a good big sis would. I wouldn't remember but there was a period when Aaron was not talking to Faye after her mardy strop at him. Did he say unpleasant things about her then maybe.

Pyramid* · 10-10-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, her reply to Faye saying that he says nice things about her in the Diary Room was "How do you Know" she knows he does but she was making out to Faye that he doesn't.

The power of a well worded statement left hanging in the air - and with a flat refusal to expand or explain - often the sign of a liar and /or a sh*t stirrer. In this case, going by what we have been shown by BB over the course, Jem is both.

If I was in Faye's shoes: I'd be telling big Sis to either says what she's heard - otherwise she's paying no attention to her.

Pyramid* · 10-10-2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Gem's just being Hyper critical of the Lad like a good big sis would. I wouldn't remember but there was a period when Aaron was not talking to Faye after her mardy strop at him. Did he say unpleasant things about her then maybe.

Don't blame him either. Faye was the one who had the mardy strop. It was her strop, let her keep it.

Cromwell1900 · 10-10-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Don't blame him either. Faye was the one who had the mardy strop. It was her strop, let her keep it.

What is your point?

Niamh. · 10-10-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

She never made anything at all, how can you say that? she was asking faye general questions about how sure she was of aaron.

I've already explained why I think she was trying to put untrue ideas in her head. We're going round in circles now.

Raven · 10-10-2011, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Carson

Aaron is only using her to try and create a fauxmance and to win the money,thats all that interests him imo.

Bullseye! Thats much the impression I have of aarons actions so far too

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