[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by Ammi

What is quite telling is the conversation she's just with him, talking about her mum and asking what he's going to do to impress her...has her mum not got to impress Aaron to...she's already judged him without meeting him....if it was the other way round and say Jay's mum had done this to Louise and Jay asked Louise how she was going to impress his mum, everyone would be screaming.......'mummy's boy!'.....there has been no empathy for how Aaron is feeling, that I can see from Faye

I think the trouble is that no matter how hard people try to be Objective it is difficult. Often it boils down to Tomato or Tomatoe's

You present the comparison of Jay & Louise to Aaron & Faye hinting at a double standard in play. This is how i would explain for myself why it may be taken as so.

Jay is overly sexual with Louise, i'm a bloke and i understand that, although certainly would not behave that way myself. I don't think of it as detestable however, that is because i think he has outside of that treated her with respect. And i can see that he cares a hell of a lot about her. Sure he likes her more than she likes him but that's not a fault.

I agree with Jay when he said Aaron is impossible to read, and that may have something to do with negative opinions of him i.e if he does not say You've pee'd me off, instead choosing to simply ignore a Hm, it leaves the door wide open for speculation. I also think if you admit to playing a game and you don't keep us informed ala Anton, your asking for trouble. Subjective views quickly follow in through the door, and it becomes impossible to call. Does a default stance result! i like Aaron therefore he was not guilty, likewise, i don't like Aaron therefor he was guilty.

Aside from that. I keep comparing the Faye which walked through the door Day 1 with the Faye i'm seeing today and, it's chalk & cheese. She's testing Aaron at every chance, tests designed to assess his like for her (Burp, asking Maisy into his bed then leaving the bed herself) It's all very childish.
And no fault of Aaron's, but he is 30 and she is much younger and any criticism of using Faye from me Now is centered around the apparent ability for this un-tolerating Man to tolerate Faye in the confusing fashion he does it in.

The second Aaron drops Faye, he can play what ever game he wants and he'll be loved for it, because he seems like a really nice guy apart from his unwillingness to seek resolutions.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

I think the trouble is that no matter how hard people try to be Objective it is difficult. Often it boils down to Tomato or Tomatoe's

You present the comparison of Jay & Louise to Aaron & Faye hinting at a double standard in play. This is how i would explain for myself why it may be taken as so.

Jay is overly sexual with Louise, i'm a bloke and i understand that, although certainly would not behave that way myself. I don't think of it as detestable however, that is because i think he has outside of that treated her with respect. And i can see that he cares a hell of a lot about her. Sure he likes her more than she likes him but that's not a fault.

I agree with Jay when he said Aaron is impossible to read, and that may have something to do with negative opinions of him i.e if he does not say You've pee'd me off, instead choosing to simply ignore a Hm, it leaves the door wide open for speculation. I also think if you admit to playing a game and you don't keep us informed ala Anton, your asking for trouble. Subjective views quickly follow in through the door, and it becomes impossible to call. Does a default stance result! i like Aaron therefore he was not guilty, likewise, i don't like Aaron therefor he was guilty.

Aside from that. I keep comparing the Faye which walked through the door Day 1 with the Faye i'm seeing today and, it's chalk & cheese. She's testing Aaron at every chance, tests designed to assess his like for her (Burp, asking Maisy into his bed then leaving the bed herself) It's all very childish.
And no fault of Aaron's, but he is 30 and she is much younger and any criticism of using Faye from me Now is centered around the apparent ability for this un-tolerating Man to tolerate Faye in the confusing fashion he does it in.

The second Aaron drops Faye, he can play what ever game he wants and he'll be loved for it, because he seems like a really nice guy apart from his unwillingness to seek resolutions.

I used Jay/Louise as an example simply because Aaron's mum didn't nominate at all whereas Jay's did...for no other reason. The same would have applied if Aaron's mum had of nominated and said she didn't like Faye or the way she treated Aaron...the Aaron going on to ask Faye how she would impress his mum.......everyone would scream 'mummy's boy!' and say why should Faye do anything to impress his mum, when she was the one who had judged him harshly........added to this the fact that Faye has not showed any sign of empathy towards Aaron and how this has affected him, where he has been visibly distraught and shaking at one point...

[Cromwell1900]

[QUOTE=Ammi;4693340]I used Jay/Louise as an example simply because Aaron's mum didn't nominate at all whereas Jay's did...for no other reason. The same would have applied if Aaron's mum had of nominated and said she didn't like Faye or the way she treated Aaron...the Aaron going on to ask Faye how she would impress his mum.......everyone would scream 'mummy's boy!' and say why should Faye do anything to impress his mum, when she was the one who had judged him harshly........added to this the fact that Faye has not showed any sign of empathy towards Aaron and how this has affected him, where he has been visibly distraught and shaking at one point...[/QUOTE]


I just wish i knew the extent of Aarons game.

but, yep! i see your point, Faye is very selfish and i certainly don't criticize Faye as much as is deserved for her behavior.

[tonyface]

[QUOTE=Cromwell1900;4693366]

Originally Posted by Ammi

I used Jay/Louise as an example simply because Aaron's mum didn't nominate at all whereas Jay's did...for no other reason. The same would have applied if Aaron's mum had of nominated and said she didn't like Faye or the way she treated Aaron...the Aaron going on to ask Faye how she would impress his mum.......everyone would scream 'mummy's boy!' and say why should Faye do anything to impress his mum, when she was the one who had judged him harshly........added to this the fact that Faye has not showed any sign of empathy towards Aaron and how this has affected him, where he has been visibly distraught and shaking at one point...[/QUOTE]


I just wish i knew the extent of Aarons game.

but, yep! i see your point, Faye is very selfish and i certainly don't criticize Faye as much as is deserved for her behavior.

Aaron shakes all the time, when he talks, because he is like an old grandma.

In our house whenever he goes into one of his diatribes or pompous speeches in the diary room, our whole family start rolling our eyes and put on that silly Rigsby like head wobble that he does....

The scallywag is working aaaaawwfully hard to win though, and it would be aaaaaahhbsolutely apppppppaaaaaaallling if he did'nt make the final...

[Cromwell1900]

[QUOTE=tonyface;4693377]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Aaron shakes all the time, when he talks, because he is like an old grandma.

In our house whenever he goes into one of his diatribes or pompous speeches in the diary room, our whole family start rolling our eyes and put on that silly Rigsby like head wobble that he does....

The scallywag is working aaaaawwfully hard to win though, and it would be aaaaaahhbsolutely apppppppaaaaaaallling if he did'nt make the final...

Arr i love Rising Damp. and nice Caricature as well. Here's another one.

[Kazanne]

[QUOTE=tonyface;4693377]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Aaron shakes all the time, when he talks, because he is like an old grandma.

In our house whenever he goes into one of his diatribes or pompous speeches in the diary room, our whole family start rolling our eyes and put on that silly Rigsby like head wobble that he does....

The scallywag is working aaaaawwfully hard to win though, and it would be aaaaaahhbsolutely apppppppaaaaaaallling if he did'nt make the final...

Well aint your whole house silly billies

[Cromwell1900]

[QUOTE=kazanne;4693575]

Originally Posted by tonyface

Well aint your whole house silly billies

You appear to of made a mistake there Kazanne My name is in some one elses Quote. Oopsi.