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Kate! · 04-11-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by vesavius

Such short memories...

Faye has been an emotional wreck since day 1 of this series. It didn't start with Jem.

But still, whatever Faye is that doesn't change what Aaron is. She is obviously emotionally immature, insecure, and volatile and Aaron as a mature man should have seen that and not chosen her as his tactical fauxmance, ethically speaking.

You just shot your entire argument to pieces. Well done

You state Faye was a wreck from the start, therefore how on earth can it be down to Aaron. It DID start with Jem, it has been the pattern all Faye's life, the mother and sister emotionally destroyed the girl. Yes, I do agree with you partly however, that Faye is insecure and volatile, this is for the above reasons, yes, Jemma and Ma Palmer have a lot to answer for. Also, I don't believe the romance is fake, unfortunately though it won't be allowed to last once they get out, by guess who. Yep, the two witches again.

fitz2k2 · 04-11-2011, 11:59 AM

It kinda true..this is why he is single ...ladies man my ass

Kazelle · 04-11-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitnick

Yes, if he is like that in real life. Most people would just walk away from a relationship like that but some people enjoy the drama. Faye might just be going along with it because she is in the Big Brother house and the disfunctional relationship gets her more air time.

You've hit the nail right on the head there

vesavius · 04-11-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by *Kate*

You just shot your entire argument to pieces. Well done

You state Faye was a wreck from the start, therefore how on earth can it be down to Aaron. Yes, I do agree with you partly however, that Faye is insecure and volatile...

Let me explain...

Faye HAS been an emotional wreck since day 1, thats true.

Aaron, as an emotional bully, recognised that and chose to take advantage of it, exasperating her mental state to feed into his need for an 'interesting' realtionship in the house. As a grown man, and an intelligent one at that who everyone tells me is a 'master game player', I can only assume it was intentional.

But then I said all this when I said, "But still, whatever Faye is that doesn't change what Aaron is. She is obviously emotionally immature, insecure, and volatile and Aaron as a mature man should have seen that and not chosen her as his tactical fauxmance, ethically speaking"

I have never said 'Faye was perfect before she met Aaron'. Aaron hasn't made Faye what she is, but he sure as hell is taking advantage of it.

Game playing aside, passive aggressive bully types are commonly drawn to Faye's personality type, simply because they deliver what they are themselves looking for... Reaction, chaos, and, ultimately, control.

flamingGalah! · 04-11-2011, 12:17 PM

Completely out of order to call Aaron a 'bully', emotionally or otherwise...

Bill Carson · 04-11-2011, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Completely out of order to call Aaron a 'bully', emotionally or otherwise...

Why?...Because you say so? Don't attempt to dictate to anyone what they can or cannot think.

RodHull · 04-11-2011, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius

Let me explain...

Faye HAS been an emotional wreck since day 1, thats true.

Aaron, as an emotional bully, recognised that and chose to take advantage of it, exasperating her mental state to feed into his need for an 'interesting' realtionship in the house. As a grown man, and an intelligent one at that who everyone tells me is a 'master game player', I can only assume it was intentional.

But then I said all this when I said, "But still, whatever Faye is that doesn't change what Aaron is. She is obviously emotionally immature, insecure, and volatile and Aaron as a mature man should have seen that and not chosen her as his tactical fauxmance, ethically speaking"

I have never said 'Faye was perfect before she met Aaron'. Aaron hasn't made Faye what she is, but he sure as hell is taking advantage of it.

Game playing aside, passive aggressive bully types are commonly drawn to Faye's personality type, simply because they deliver what they are themselves looking for... Reaction, chaos, and, ultimately, control.

And you dont see how she has played him (and you apparently) I agree they are both in this for their own reasons, some completely selfish. Buts its not as cut and dried as him 'choosing' her and her just being used. They are both using each other, Indeed Id argue she has brought him down far more than he has done to her. Her mental state has never changed much, she used to bang on about 'looking like a dickhead' before they were even together, where as he was quite happy and content before he hooked up with her.

She has betrayed him, lied to him and mocked him far more than he has ever done to her. Indeed I am yet to hear any proper evidence of how he has 'messed with her head' this phrase people keep bandying around with no proof. The worst thing he does to her is when he goes silent on her, BUT this isnt always directed at her. Sometimes it is, but sometimes he just likes his own space, its her needyness that interprets this as him being moody with her cause in her world everything revolves around her.

She is not the innocent 19 year old she would have us believe, she is a 22 year old woman who has had a relationship with a 42 year old before. Aaron has been very accomodating of her weird behaviour, much more so than the 42 year old probably ever was. Hes far from perfect but shes even further from perfect. I suggest she has had a far more dramatic and negative affect on him and his time in the house, than he has had on her.

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Completely out of order to call Aaron a 'bully', emotionally or otherwise...

Its a phrase that gets used WAY to much in relation to BB since the whole Shilpa Shetty incident.

fruit_cake · 04-11-2011, 12:32 PM

Aaron's not an 'abusive husband' imo, that comment is ridiculously sensationalist.

MTVN · 04-11-2011, 12:33 PM

Ok everyone needs to calm it down in here, there is no need for posts like the above

BJ · 04-11-2011, 12:35 PM

[QUOTE=vesavius;4717803]I meant here we go again that the complaints flood in over something or other minor and fleeting in general, not that you were a serial complainer

Thank you, vesavius

I know we don't support the same housemates, and that's fine. I've been an avid fan of Big Brother since half way through BB1 so there's no way I would want to be involved, in any way, with neutering the show. However I felt compelled to make a complaint about one comment made on the spin off BOTs made by one guest. I'm sure you agree that unfounded suggestions by panel members that a particular person is either racist, homophobic or abusive is totally unacceptable.

BigBrotherfan4ever · 04-11-2011, 12:37 PM

I couldnt believe my ears, when I heard them saying Aaron is like abusive husband, it's totally out of order.

MTVN · 04-11-2011, 12:39 PM

Deleted some posts in here, to reiterate:

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Originally Posted by MTVN

Ok everyone needs to calm it down in here, there is no need for posts like the above

vesavius · 04-11-2011, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius

I meant here we go again that the complaints flood in over something or other minor and fleeting in general, not that you were a serial complainer

Thank you, vesavius

I know we don't support the same housemates, and that's fine. I've been an avid fan of Big Brother since half way through BB1 so there's no way I would want to be involved, in any way, with neutering the show. However I felt compelled to make a complaint about one comment made on the spin off BOTs made by one guest. I'm sure you agree that unfounded suggestions by panel members that a particular person is either racist, homophobic or abusive is totally unacceptable.

I do, and we as viewers have the right to be upset and should show that with their on/off switch or,in this case, our votes. I just believe reporting to Ofcom doesnt do any good... especially in this case where it will only hurt BB even more in the long term as they start to walk on eggshells and it will also just drag the comment on and on.

As a side, I agree that comparing Aaron to a 'abusive husband' was going too far, I have said that since the start of my posts in this thread

(there are also Aaron supporters here who post stuff in a way I really like and who I get on with, despite not agreeing with them on this silly gameshow... I think you have just made that list BJ

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kisywisy · 04-11-2011, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by *Kate*

You just shot your entire argument to pieces. Well done

You state Faye was a wreck from the start, therefore how on earth can it be down to Aaron. It DID start with Jem, it has been the pattern all Faye's life, the mother and sister emotionally destroyed the girl. Yes, I do agree with you partly however, that Faye is insecure and volatile, this is for the above reasons, yes, Jemma and Ma Palmer have a lot to answer for. Also, I don't believe the romance is fake, unfortunately though it won't be allowed to last once they get out, by guess who. Yep, the two witches again.

you have absolutely NO proof of this. you are moaning about aaron being compared to an abusive husband, yet you have no problem in basically saying faye's mum and sister were emotionally abusive to her!!!

total hypocrite

you also don't know what aaron is like as a husband or long term partner.

you may have gone through some terrible times, but it doesn't make you the expert. i've gone through some horrible things in my life, but i know each and every person goes through it differently

BJ · 04-11-2011, 12:50 PM

[QUOTE=vesavius;4717951]

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Originally Posted by BJ

I do, and we as viewers have the right to be upset and should show that with their on/off switch or,in this case, our votes. I just believe reporting to Ofcom doesnt do any good... especially in this case where it will only hurt BB even more in the long term as they start to walk on eggshells and it will also just drag the comment on and on.

As a side, I agree that comparing Aaron to a 'abusive husband' was going too far, I have said that since the start of my posts in this thread

(there are also Aaron supporters here who post stuff in a way I really like and who I get on with, despite not agreeing with them on this silly gameshow... I think you have just made that list BJ

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Thanks Versavius. Will you be my new BFF

Kate! · 04-11-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kisywisy

you have absolutely NO proof of this. you are moaning about aaron being compared to an abusive husband, yet you have no problem in basically saying faye's mum and sister were emotionally abusive to her!!!

total hypocrite

you also don't know what aaron is like as a husband or long term partner.

you may have gone through some terrible times, but it doesn't make you the expert. i've gone through some horrible things in my life, but i know each and every person goes through it differently

A lot of us on here are not happy that Aaron has been portrayed in this light, there is no evidence to support this is what I am saying. There is very clear evidence of how Jemma treats Faye however, if you have been watching all the episodes. I don't claim to be an expert, far from it, but I have been through enough that I recognise the signs, emotional abuse does follow a pattern. I object to you calling me a hypocrite for stating my opinions, sorry you don't like them, but I am allowed to voice them just as much as the next person. I will rephrase what I said however, to hopefully keep the peace please. In my opinion Aaron is not an emotional bully, but I feel that Jemma is. Is that better for you?

Beso · 04-11-2011, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by *Kate*

You just shot your entire argument to pieces. Well done

You state Faye was a wreck from the start, therefore how on earth can it be down to Aaron. It DID start with Jem, it has been the pattern all Faye's life, the mother and sister emotionally destroyed the girl. Yes, I do agree with you partly however, that Faye is insecure and volatile, this is for the above reasons, yes, Jemma and Ma Palmer have a lot to answer for. Also, I don't believe the romance is fake, unfortunately though it won't be allowed to last once they get out, by guess who. Yep, the two witches again.

she's been in tears at least once a week since day 2..I have the video evidence on my virgin tv hard drive.

alc09 · 04-11-2011, 12:58 PM

Oh dear Nicola McLean - I think this may be the last we see of her for a while, not because of that comment but because she has had to stoop so low to appear on BBBOTS.

Along with her arrogant cock of a husband, who is so good at football he has ended up in non league - I don't think we will be seeing/hearing much of them for a while.