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Old 04-11-2011, 11:21 PM #1
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Default So...Faye has spoken.

The manipulation is a myth. She was very happy with Aaron, and it showed on BBBOTS. She refused to slag him off despite many attempts to get her to do so.

She also reminded people that we watch a short edit of events, whilst she was there 24/7.

The range rover thing, that some delighted in using as a reason to attack Aaron...was actually discussed between the pair, and Faye couldnt even remember saying it.

So...Aaron still evil?
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Duh.... doesn't matter what she claims, of course she will deny it.... thats what manipulation DOES! *Shake head* It will be a while before she looks back at it and realises.
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I agree Vicky,it well and truly backfired on BBBOTS,Glad Faye stood by him on this occasion,she hasn't always,but all in all the interview wasn't bad,disappointed in Harry he seems quite determined to get that 'gameplayer' bit over,I just wonder if Ma palmer and Gemma will get to her during the week
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Duh.... doesn't matter what she claims, of course she will deny it.... thats what manipulation DOES! *Shake head* It will be a while before she looks back at it and realises.
LOL. Just give it up. Shes clearly very happy

You think you know better than her, who has lived with him 24/7?
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I agree Vicky,it well and truly backfired on BBBOTS,Glad Faye stood by him on this occasion,she hasn't always,but all in all the interview wasn't bad,disappointed in Harry he seems quite determined to get that 'gameplayer' bit over,I just wonder if Ma palmer and Gemma will get to her during the week
Obviously Harry is still bitter.
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The manipulation is a myth. She was very happy with Aaron, and it showed on BBBOTS. She refused to slag him off despite many attempts to get her to do so.

She also reminded people that we watch a short edit of events, whilst she was there 24/7.

The range rover thing, that some delighted in using as a reason to attack Aaron...was actually discussed between the pair, and Faye couldnt even remember saying it.

So...Aaron still evil?
And there's been so much hate for Aaron and Faye over this. The editing has clearly been incredibly biased against them and now Faye is unmoved by the leading questions from Brian and BBBOTS, and tells them she knows best, not them.

So many posts have been made making crazy claims that Aaron has been a puppet master in their relationship and she calmly blows that theory out of the water in no time at all.

Who knows how things will go for them in the future but she seems keen to give it a go anyhow.

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LOL. Just give it up. Shes clearly very happy

You think you know better than her, who has lived with him 24/7?
Harry lived with him 24/7 as well and seemed to have a very different view
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cmon hes not evil but its obvious he knows excactly what hes doing
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Duh.... doesn't matter what she claims, of course she will deny it.... thats what manipulation DOES! *Shake head* It will be a while before she looks back at it and realises.
He is a contracts manager from Weston Super Mare not Derren F*ing Brown.
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Harry lived with him 24/7 as well and seemed to have a very different view
Harry's view changed though unlike Faye's, so he is unreliable and curtailing to BB whims.
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Harry's view changed though unlike Faye's, so he is unreliable and curtailing to BB whims.
It's not necessarily that his view changed, maybe he just didn't real his true opinion until after he left. My point is that although she might have lived with him 24/7 that alone does not mean we are to trust her account 100%, if you want a different example then Anton has and always was going on about how much of a game player he was

For the record I don't think Aaron is playing a game, and I think him and Faye are real, I'm just playing Devil's Advocate
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Duh.... doesn't matter what she claims, of course she will deny it.... thats what manipulation DOES! *Shake head* It will be a while before she looks back at it and realises.
You wrote exactly what I thought. Are you me?
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Harry lived with him 24/7 as well and seemed to have a very different view

But Harry was saying one thing in the house and another on BBBOTS, and then he backtracks on Twitter and reverts to sniping at Aaron on BBOTS again: will the real Harry please stand up!

Harry seems to have an agenda of his own where consistency and loyalty have no part. He has been acting very strangely since he left the house.
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The manipulation is a myth. She was very happy with Aaron, and it showed on BBBOTS. She refused to slag him off despite many attempts to get her to do so.

She also reminded people that we watch a short edit of events, whilst she was there 24/7.

The range rover thing, that some delighted in using as a reason to attack Aaron...was actually discussed between the pair, and Faye couldnt even remember saying it.

So...Aaron still evil?
This is the girl who ran back to Aaron after he wouldn't speak to her for 24 hours for 'a little burp'. This is the girl who ran back to Aaron after he said he preferred Alex to be in the final over her. This is the girl who told Aaron she was worried that they didn't spend any time together or talk during the day and he only seemed to want her at bedtime.

Then, suddenly, Aaron is 'loved up' with her for the last 2 days because he knew her eviction was looming and he didn't want her saying anything bad about him when she got out. After all this time, he finally says 'I love you' to keep her sweet. Great timing Aaron. Your manipulation has worked once again.

Far from being 'gutted' he is sitting there all agog at how to deal with the money twist and use it to his best advantage. Yep, he loves Faye so much.
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Harry lived with him 24/7 as well and seemed to have a very different view
Was Harry actually in the relationship?

Also Harry has backtracked a bit on what he originally said anyways
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The manipulation is a myth. She was very happy with Aaron, and it showed on BBBOTS. She refused to slag him off despite many attempts to get her to do so.

She also reminded people that we watch a short edit of events, whilst she was there 24/7.

The range rover thing, that some delighted in using as a reason to attack Aaron...was actually discussed between the pair, and Faye couldnt even remember saying it.

So...Aaron still evil?
Manipulation = compliance Love = blind.

Why do you think we've been banging the manipulation drum for so long it's because it screws up the show never mind Faye. And now apparently there was no Action(manipulation) because the result(compliance) appeared

So Faye indeed has been sent out into the world with "The love bug" well done Aaron all that romancing we have seen this week was time well spent.
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This is the girl who ran back to Aaron after he wouldn't speak to her for 24 hours for 'a little burp'. This is the girl who ran back to Aaron after he said he preferred Alex to be in the final over her. This is the girl who told Aaron she was worried that they didn't spend any time together or talk during the day and he only seemed to want her at bedtime.

Then, suddenly, Aaron is 'loved up' with her for the last 2 days because he knew her eviction was looming and he didn't want her saying anything bad about him when she got out. After all this time, he finally says 'I love you' to keep her sweet. Great timing Aaron. Your manipulation has worked once again.

Far from being 'gutted' he is sitting there all agog at how to deal with the money twist and use it to his best advantage. Yep, he loves Faye so much.
Hold on, we now know that the programme has been edited so as to create a false picture of their relationship. They've misrepresented crucial conversations which have mislead the viewers, Faye’s interviews tonight have made that clear.

Only Faye and Aaron know where they stand in the relationship and it doesn't seem to be much like the picture BB have painted over the last few weeks!
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Was Harry actually in the relationship?

Also Harry has backtracked a bit on what he originally said anyways
No wonder, after getting all the angst from Aaron fans. Plenty of people have felt their wrath and decided it wasn't worth giving their true opinion, like Brain Dowling to name just one.
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No wonder, after getting all the angst from Aaron fans. Plenty of people have felt their wrath and decided it wasn't worth giving their true opinion, like Brain Dowling to name just one.
I dont agree with giving people abuse. But it has to be said Brian was totally in the wrong telling someone in the audience they should be ashamed to vote for Aaron.

The voters pay his wages

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Manipulation = compliance Love = blind.

Why do you think we've been banging the manipulation drum for so long it's because it screws up the show never mind Faye. And now apparently there was no Action(manipulation) because the result(compliance) appeared

So Faye indeed has been sent out into the world with "The love bug" well done Aaron all that romancing we have seen this week was time well spent.
Nonsense, BB haven't even managed to convince many viewers with their falsifications and edits (Please see the Favourite's poll for example) and now Faye calmly and sanely comes out of the house and rubbishes the manipulation claims.

I think you are mesmerized by your own dislike of Aaron and are sticking to some daft myth that he has amazing 'powers'!
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But Harry was saying one thing in the house and another on BBBOTS, and then he backtracks on Twitter and reverts to sniping at Aaron on BBOTS again: will the real Harry please stand up!

Harry seems to have an agenda of his own where consistency and loyalty have no part. He has been acting very strangely since he left the house.
I see what you mean he has contradicted himself i think it can be explained in purely BB gaming terms though.

And i have no reason to believe these Twitter claims have i?
And Bots was that a backtrack?

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Hold on, we now know that the programme has been edited so as to create a false picture of their relationship. They've misrepresented crucial conversations which have mislead the viewers, Faye’s interviews tonight have made that clear.

Only Faye and Aaron know where they stand in the relationship and it doesn't seem to be much like the picture BB have painted over the last few weeks!
How do we know its been edited to create a false picture of their relationship? Faye hasn't seen the HL's yet so she can't know what the edits were like. One little example doesn't prove anything. The points I made actually did occur. We know that at a late stage of their relationship Faye was concerned that Aaron didn't spend time with her or talk to her during the day, because we heard her saying so. We know that Aaron said he had nothing in common with anyone in the house and didn't know what to talk to them about because we heard him saying so. .
These things we DO know, and that is what we form our opinions on.
I wouldn't hold much stock in what Faye says now because of these and other events - Faye had to hold on to her dignity and she did a good job with that. Kudos to her.
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I see what you mean he has contradicted himself i think it can be explained in purely BB gaming terms though.

And i have no reason to believe these Twitter claims have i?
And Bots was that a backtrack?
A number of posters have been following Harry on Twitter and from his comments there, expected him to come out and defend Aaron on BBBOTS tonight and it didn't happen: very odd!

The Harry outside the house seems to have a grudge against Aaron and he seems to want to damage his chances of doing well. He also claims to be a friend of his!
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I dont agree with giving people abuse. But it has to be said Brian was totally in the wrong telling someone in the audience they should be ashamed to vote for Aaron.

The voters pay his wages
I missed that one. If he did, I agree that was wrong.
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