[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

Totally agree with MTVN on this one. It's double standards for people on this board to be vocal in expecting Alex to share her winnings because of the agreement, and then saying Aaron shouldn't - or being prepared to defend him if he doesn't. And the whole presentgate reference is pure clutching at straws. Aaron initiated the 30/20 split, and it was made well after presentgate had blown over. You'd just as well be arguing that Aaron shouldn't split his earnings with Jay because of an argument they had in week 3, it's completely irrelevant. As they say, a deal is a deal!

I agree.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

Totally agree with MTVN on this one. It's double standards for people on this board to be vocal in expecting Alex to share her winnings because of the agreement, and then saying Aaron shouldn't - or being prepared to defend him if he doesn't. And the whole presentgate reference is pure clutching at straws. Aaron initiated the 30/20 split, and it was made well after presentgate had blown over. You'd just as well be arguing that Aaron shouldn't split his earnings with Jay because of an argument they had in week 3, it's completely irrelevant. As they say, a deal is a deal!

And for all the reasons I have posted on this thread, i find it equally as hypocritical that some cannot see the difference in the differing 3 scenarios.

[Yayita]

If Aaron renegs then they should all reneg with regards to the 10K they were supposed to give him.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Yayita

If Aaron renegs then they should all reneg with regards to the 10K they were supposed to give him.

That wouldn't affect Louise or Tom would it.... they also would suffer.

so now we are bringing into it, a whole gambit of spin off as to how it should affect the housemates.

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

he removed himself from an incredibly embarrassing situation. I wonder how any of us here posting about it would have felt in Aaron's position.

I know for an absolute fact that I too would have removed myself: through anger, embarrassment and complete bewilderment why 2 people who had agreed with me only a short while ago: would put me in such a horrible position.

I do not think Aaron did anything wrong here. And I say that as me being a human being with feelings: and not as an Aaron fan.

Ok you think it's fine for him to agree to split the money and then back out of it. I disagree and I also think, as a human being with feelings, that he could have put his 'anger, embarrassment and complete bewilderment' to one side for a few hours and made sure that his friends had a great party, so we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Incensed

Out of respect to Alex and Tom (who had nothing to do with the buying or not of presents) he should have at least tried to make their party a happy occasion. Instead he chose to behave in a childish manner.

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

he removed himself from an incredibly embarrassing situation. I wonder how any of us here posting about it would have felt in Aaron's position.

I know for an absolute fact that I too would have removed myself: through anger, embarrassment and complete bewilderment why 2 people who had agreed with me only a short while ago: would put me in such a horrible position.

I do not think Aaron did anything wrong here. And I say that as me being a human being with feelings: and not as an Aaron fan.

Originally Posted by Incensed

Ok you think it's fine for him to agree to split the money and then back out of it. I disagree and I also think, as a human being with feelings, that he could have put his 'anger, embarrassment and complete bewilderment' to one side for a few hours and made sure that his friends had a great party, so we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one

My reply to you, was quite specifically in response to your post above: your own post which was nothing to do with backing out or not: but more to do with how you viewed Aaron's behaviour at the birthday party.

how would you feel if you had been put in Aaron's position - in respect of my reply to your post previously? I see you didn't respond to that?

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

My reply to you, was quite specifically in response to your post above: your own post which was nothing to do with backing out or not: but more to do with how you viewed Aaron's behaviour at the birthday party.

how would you feel if you had been put in Aaron's position - in respect of my reply to your post previously? I see you didn't respond to that?

Personally I wouldn't have been upset by something like that, truly I wouldn't, I'm not just saying it. If I didn't want to contribute, said so and told the other people to do what they want, then that would be the end of it as far as I'm concerned.

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

That wouldn't affect Louise or Tom would it.... they also would suffer.

so now we are bringing into it, a whole gambit of spin off as to how it should affect the housemates.

Just not give Aaron the 10K and split it amongst themselves since he has decided to back out of giving Jay the 20K.. If its good enough for him to reneg, then he will understand if the others do as well and shouldn't mind if they don't give him the original 10K

[thesheriff443]

two wrongs dont make a right!

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

two wrongs dont make a right!

Whaaaaa???? In this is case is only fair. So do you suggest he back out and still expect the 10K from the original agreement?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.... If its fair for one person, then it should be fair for all persons.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Incensed

Personally I wouldn't have been upset by something like that, truly I wouldn't, I'm not just saying it. If I didn't want to contribute, said so and told the other people to do what they want, then that would be the end of it as far as I'm concerned.

That's the very point. What one person regards as what the correct action / behaviour is: is not a reason for another person accepting that as the only action/behaviour to be deemed correct.

We are all different. We all react differently. We all have our own subjective reasons why we feel so differently.

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

two wrongs dont make a right!

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth also applies.

Originally Posted by Yayita

Whaaaaa???? In this is case is only fair. So do you suggest he back out and still expect the 10K from the original agreement?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.... If its fair for one person, then it should be fair for all persons.

Absolutely. It's hypocritical to say it's okay for one person to do something, but not okay for someone else to do the same thing.

[Marcus.]

thsi is jay mum on the matter

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north...2703-29772955/

[alex_front2]

Now that I've read Jays' mum vile rant I hope Aaron tells them both to ***** off or at least say 'holy mackerel, go away'.

[Pyramid*]

Excellent point made by Angus on another thread

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north...2703-29772955/

Angus' post.

Yet it goes on to say that "Jay pocketed £15,000" - so clearly he didn't share his winnings! Funny how we only ever get half the story when it concerns Aaron, anything to put him in a bad light. No wonder Jay is the way he is with a mother like that - must have had him when she was about 14 and dragged him up.

No love, he's not the people's winner, he's the lowlife chav's winner.

now..... let's see what some have to say about this.

[pegson123]

why does everyone take what jays mum said as truth. how do we know aaron said he wouldn't split the money. how do we know they aint all gonna meet up and split the cash

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by pegson123

what does everyone take what jays mum said as truth. how do we know aaron said he wouldnt split the money. how do we know they aint all gonna meet up and aplit the cash

Most of us don't pegson.

And we don't know...it's all what, ifs, whys...... but it's all designed around making Aaron look bad. funny that eh!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by bigbrother12

thsi is jay mum on the matter

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north...2703-29772955/

LOL,loving the comments left there.bitter bitter Mrs Mckray and she said on the night aaron deserved to win,make your mind up luv!!

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by kazanne

LOL,loving the comments left there.bitter bitter Mrs Mckray and she said on the night aaron deserved to win,make your mind up luv!!

Very obvious that she is Jay's mother then eh Kaz....... says one thing, then changes her mind...... how typical.

Mind you, seeing as she and her son don't know what name to call him from month to month: you can tell they aren't quite up there in the Mensa stakes eh!

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Excellent point made by Angus on another thread

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north...2703-29772955/


now..... let's see what some have to say about this.

Well if Jay doesn't share the money like they agreed, then he's as bad as Aaron.

[Suze]

Originally Posted by kazanne

LOL,loving the comments left there.bitter bitter Mrs Mckray and she said on the night aaron deserved to win,make your mind up luv!!

Was reading through those comments and Hope the bitter moo reads them also

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Incensed

Well if Jay doesn't share the money like they agreed, then he's as bad as Aaron.

Let's look at another way: no one (fans or themselves or their families) can critisise any of them. What's good for the goose and all that.

[Suze]

Originally Posted by Incensed

Well if Jay doesn't share the money like they agreed, then he's as bad as Aaron.

I don't think Aaron should now, after all the flack he keeps getting, but yeah, it takes two not one to welsh on a deal in anything not just anything BB.

[spintronic]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Wouldn't it have been common courtesy for Aaron to tell the rest of the house his intentions during the face to face noms? Maybe it was payback time.

If we are technically talking about splitting *ALL* proceeds from the BB experience.

Then Louise will no doubt give Aaron £40,000 per 200k photoshoot, for gatting her baps out & being a slut.

Perhaps, she can then apologise for all that "I'm real me", "I'm just a normal girl me" ***CRAP*** we had to endure:

week in week out and week in week out and week in week out and week in week out and week in week out and week in week out and week in week out and week in week out and week in week out.

[spintronic]

I think were all forgetting poor tom in all this.

Last I heard, he spent £9.98 on a train-fare home.

:bawling :

[BBfan6418]

Aaron retweeted this yesterday.

@StevenDaviesCL that a legit mistake cos @Aaronspoppets said he'd give @RealJayMcKray 20k if he won when they were final2..doubt he did tho