[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Which is reasonable if it's general quick convo with strangers...., but so too, is not 'skipping that part of the conversation'.... not certainly it's a bit dubious, when you're actually living with people 24/7 in a house for 64 days to continue the pretence.

Unless of course:

(1) Jay didn't mention it quite deliberately or

(2) BB simply decided to ensure the edits shown, were giving the impression that he was just a simple, hard working, down to earth, no trapping, no wealth, type run of the mill average family lad, from 'Newcah ssuullll like'.

I cant believe I am sticking up for Jay here...but I dont really see what the big deal is. Whichkam is NOT far from Newcastle at all. And he grew up in Byker...so he is a geordie.

If you grew up in scotland, then moved to england when you were, for example, 16...you would still tell people you were scottish no?

And maybe he didnt say he was from Whickham because he didnt want people stalking out his flat. (as they have managed to do anyways ) Whickham aint that big. maybe there was some other reason...maybe he just wanted people to think he was from Newcastle, maybe the housemates didnt discuss their hometowns...or maybe BB just didnt show it, who knows. But its hardly the deception of the century.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I cant believe I am sticking up for Jay here...but I dont really see what the big deal is. Whichkam is NOT far from Newcastle at all. And he grew up in Byker...so he is a geordie.

If you grew up in scotland, then moved to england when you were, for example, 16...you would still tell people you were scottish no?

And maybe he didnt say he was from Whickham because he didnt want people stalking out his flat. (as they have managed to do anyways ) Whickham aint that big. maybe there was some other reason...maybe he just wanted people to think he was from Newcastle, maybe the housemates didnt discuss their hometowns...or maybe BB just didnt show it, who knows. But its hardly the deception of the century.

We all have different opinions. I fully believe that Jay has deliberately been duplicitious - and this is yet another example of why - and I have explained in detail, why I think that.

That doesn't negate my point - and neither does yours, negate yours.

To answer you: my accent would tell them I was from Scotland, however I would say, "I live in Hastings" but come from... XYZ. If I had been sharing a house with those same people, 24/7: you can bet they would know exactly where I came from originally, where I lived now, when I moved etc.....

It is afterall, a place whereby opinions will not alway be shared, and this appears to be one of them.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I fully believe that Jay has deliberately been duplicitious

But what would he stand to gain though, by saying he was from Newcastle instead of saying he was '5 mins outside of Newcastle'? I dont get this at all.

Its LESS deceptive than previous 'geordies' on the show. Liam was presented to us as a geordie, yet was from lanchester. Anthony was apparently a geordie, but he was from Consett. Alex was a geordie, yet she was from Shields.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

But what would he stand to gain though, by saying he was from Newcastle instead of saying he was '5 mins outside of Newcastle'? I dont get this at all.

Its LESS deceptive than previous 'geordies' on the show. Liam was presented to us as a geordie, yet was from lanchester. Anthony was apparently a geordie, but he was from Consett. Alex was a geordie, yet she was from Shields.

I don't agree Vicky..... given his whole persona of being just a normal, hard working, no real money, wants to give his mam money - he made out on the show that he wasn't from a priviledged background: when clearly he has got trappings of wealth, and that is funded by a wealthy family.

Now nothing wrong with the wealthy family, or where he lived.....but it is the duplicitious nature and maner in which he portrayed himself (constantly) as being some regular Joe, struggling to make ends meet type thing.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I don't agree Vicky..... given his whole persona of being just a normal, hard working, no real money, wants to give his mam money - he made out on the show that he wasn't from a priviledged background: when clearly he has got trappings of wealth, and that is funded by a wealthy family.

Now nothing wrong with the wealthy family, or where he lived.....but it is the duplicitious nature and maner in which he portrayed himself (constantly) as being some regular Joe, struggling to make ends meet type thing.

But thats nothing to do with where he lives though. I do get your point about him making out he had nowt...but I dont see the connection between him saying he was from newcaslte instead of '5 mins outside of newcastle' or 'just over the river'

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

But thats nothing to do with where he lives though. I do get your point about him making out he had nowt...but I dont see the connection between him saying he was from newcaslte instead of '5 mins outside of newcastle' or 'just over the river'

See my last post... !! We are crossing over in postings.

it's to do with him pretending he is something he's not.

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I cant believe I am sticking up for Jay here...but I dont really see what the big deal is. Whichkam is NOT far from Newcastle at all. And he grew up in Byker...so he is a geordie.

If you grew up in scotland, then moved to england when you were, for example, 16...you would still tell people you were scottish no?

I think we should all just agree he's Plastic Geordie and move on. I agree, it's not a massive deception and not an uncommon one for people from Durham, but it's a deception of sorts but no worse than Alex not fessing up to being a Sand Dancer. It's a question of how cynical a move it was on each of their parts though. Were they saying they were Geordies in order to try and attract votes from the barcode sheep from Newcstle? Possibly. Didn't work though, so doesn't really matter either.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Mumbles

I think we should all just agree he's Plastic Geordie and move on. I agree, it's not a massive deception and not an uncommon one for people from Durham, but it's a deception of sorts but no worse than Alex not fessing up to being a Sand Dancer. It's a question of how cynical a move it was on each of their parts though. Were they saying they were Geordies in order to try and attract votes from the barcode sheep from Newcstle? Possibly. Didn't work though, so doesn't really matter either.

I have never heard that term about geordies. I do however, know a Plastic Paddy

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I have never heard that term about geordies. I do however, know a Plastic Paddy

Same deal I'm sure. A lot of it stems from football loyalties, with fans from the sticks opting for the city of whichever team's doing the best at the time, so loads claimed to be Geordies during the Keegan era, less when they got relegated a couple of years ago.