[Tom]

Who cares if groups are manufactured or not? If a manufactured grup makes better music than a band that write their own material then give me the manufactured band any day.

If Little Mix have a career after X Factor I can see the fat one taking a lot of artistic control anyway, and I can see them going down an early Girls Aloud/Sugababes route with that kind of electro sound, which they can pass for not being stereotypically manufactured. If you listen to Sound of the Underground, despite being manufactured it was way ahead of its time, likewise with Sugababes music from around that time (although they're weren't manufactured back then but my point still stands).

Originally Posted by Zee

I get your point, but then again, most successful pop groups are just 3-5 strangers flung together at auditions, just on the X Factor we actually see them getting formed. Sometimes it works out (Girls Aloud (bad example 'cause they actually did come from a reality show), Take That, All Saints, Sugababes, The Wanted, The Saturdays, I could go on...) and sometimes it doesn't - The X Factor has just had a lot of those who haven't worked out, which is true to life really, for every success story you have a dozen failed projects, in the music business, that's just the way it is.

Using Girls Aloud- the rejected girls made a band (the name escapes me) and were awful, they flopped. If they all happened to win, Girls Aloud would have flopped within the year. Just goes to show how even to be manufactured, you still have to 'work'. Hear Say and Liberty X are the opposite example.