[Sticks]

Actually a lot of those who made the British Empire great were Scottish

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Actually a lot of those who made the British Empire great were Scottish

There are indeed some great Scottish people......

[Liberty4eva]

I don't think many people on this thread realize this but if you do not have the freedom to say unpopular things, then you don't have freedom of speech at all. It's the unpopular speech that needs to be protected, not prosecuted. And people seem to differentiate saying racially unpopular things with unpopular things in general like they're two different things. Unpopular speech is unpopular speech whether it be about race, politics, religion.

The only reason why I keep going on and on about this is because the woman was arrested for doing relatively nothing. It's not her fault that people around her are so thin-skinned. The worst thing that should have happened to her is the train banning her for making their other customers uncomfortable. She certainly did not deserve to be arrested and CAN NOT BELIEVE people here agree that she should be behind bars.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

I don't think many people on this thread realize this but if you do not have the freedom to say unpopular things, then you don't have freedom of speech at all. It's the unpopular speech that needs to be protected, not prosecuted. And people seem to differentiate saying racially unpopular things with unpopular things in general like they're two different things. Unpopular speech is unpopular speech whether it be about race, politics, religion.

The only reason why I keep going on and on about this is because the woman was arrested for doing relatively nothing. It's not her fault that people around her are so thin-skinned. The worst thing that should have happened to her is the train banning her for making their other customers uncomfortable. She certainly did not deserve to be arrested and CAN NOT BELIEVE people here agree that she should be behind bars.

I think you will find that the Law decides that. Not you. (and they did).

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Snowball

I think you will find that the Law decides that. Not you. (and they did).

Who made the law? The commission for racial equality or whatever? LOL

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Who made the law? The commission for racial equality or whatever? LOL

Glad that you are able to establish that words such as 'racial equality' do belong together. Although I will say that the manner in which you have actually done so above, lends itself to suggesting stongly that you may not agree with racial equality. I'll ask that one to you: do you feel that one race should be allowed to abuse (verbally or otherwise) another?

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Snowball

Glad that you are able to establish that words such as 'racial equality' do belong together. Although I will say that the manner in which you have actually done so above, lends itself to suggesting stongly that you may not agree with racial equality. I'll ask that one to you: do you feel that one race should be allowed to abuse (verbally or otherwise) another?

People should be allowed to say what's on their minds, no matter how offensive it be. What do you have to say about Middle Eastern cultures where it's against the law to insult the prophet Muhammad or Islam? Should they be sent to prison? The law is the law afterall?

Now, as an outsider looking in, the sacred cow in the UK is race.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

She certainly did not deserve to be arrested

Originally Posted by Snowball

I think you will find that the Law decides that. Not you. (and they did).

The key word in Liberty's post was "deserve", they were simply disagreeing with the law

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

The key word in Liberty's post was "deserve", they were simply disagreeing with the law

If someone says "she shouldn't be arrested" and states that as their opinion, it doesn't really matter whether the law agrees with it or not, they can still have that view

They can disagree with the Law all they like, it makes no difference to the end result.

I will ask you again MTVN. Where did I state that someone's opinion was invalid or that they could not have a view.

in fact, I'll refer you back to this part of my own previous post:

I have to possibly state the obvious here: but given that the Law states a particular action or behaviour is unlawful or illegal - thems the terms that we have to abide by. Whether we agree with them or not.