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InOne · 11-12-2011, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowball

Really, that's quick a fairly quick decision to arrive at, in the space of merely a few hours; between someone not being too sure themselves and then deciding that it's a simple yes or no.

That's plenty of time

MTVN · 11-12-2011, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowball

Does it say that in the bible?

Doesn't it say that we are all God's creatures?

Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
Genesis 1:26

Callum · 11-12-2011, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

I'm just curious, but for people who believe in heaven, do animals go there too when they die?

I believe they do. I know not everyone does but I like to think that they do.

InOne · 11-12-2011, 12:44 AM

*knew he was right*

GypsyGoth · 11-12-2011, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudolph

I believe they do. I know not everyone does but I like to think that they do.

Thanks for answering.

Benjamin · 11-12-2011, 12:51 AM

I don't really know what I am. I believe that something created everything, but a part of me also believes someone created it. I have nothing against people who are religious though, we all have to believe in something, it's what gives us hope.

Benjamin · 11-12-2011, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

From being 11 and I challenged a Nun on this one who was giving us a talk,as to if you are bad and offend God then you will go to hell to be tormented by the devil, now please, come on,if we take the Bible as right, the devil was thrown out of heaven, cast aside completely, if there was such a place as hell,then for goodness sake what on earth would the devil be tormenting anyone for if they had sinned against or offended God, such people would be heroes to the devil.

I like that thought process of yours. I have never looked at it in that perspective.

GypsyGoth · 11-12-2011, 12:57 AM

There was a very good documentary about the bible a few months ago bbc2, I thought this was one of the best eps of it

Youtube video

Tom4784 · 11-12-2011, 12:59 AM

I like to believe there's something more after this life but I'm not rleigious in the slightest.

Pyramid* · 11-12-2011, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
Genesis 1:26

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Originally Posted by Scrooge

*knew he was right*

The question was however

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I'm just curious, but for people who believe in heaven, do animals go there too when they die?

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Where does that say exactly that animals don't go to Heaven when they die?

Oh....it doesn't.

*Nah nah nah nah nah*

InOne · 11-12-2011, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrooge

No. Humans are meant to be above Animals.

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Originally Posted by Snowball

Does it say that in the bible?

Doesn't it say that we are all God's creatures?

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Originally Posted by MTVN

Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
Genesis 1:26

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Originally Posted by Scrooge

*knew he was right*

You asked a Q and got it answered. Nothing else to it

MTVN · 11-12-2011, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

There was a very good documentary about the bible a few months ago bbc2, I thought this was one of the best eps of it

Youtube video

That looks quite interesting, might watch it later

I saw a good film the other day as well called Agora about Roman Egypt where Christianity had only just been allowed to be legal and there was loads of conflict with the Pagans until they driven out, then that just got replaced with conflict between Christians and Jews which also ended with the Christians again violently wrestling power from them. I think that's one of the problems with organised religion, all of them, there's a constant power struggle going on for supremacy, so that they can exert more influence and hold a more powerful presence in the world

InOne · 11-12-2011, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowball

The question was however

Where does that say exactly that animals don't go to Heaven when they die?

Oh....it doesn't.

*Nah nah nah nah nah*

If you use logical thought, it will come

Pyramid* · 11-12-2011, 01:08 AM

Well if TAPS and GHI are anything to go by; when we die, most of us hang around in buildings, spending our time freaking folk out with our ghostly apparitions, random footsteps, touching others (!!!) and in some cases, move the furniture around.

I vote for that.

Pyramid* · 11-12-2011, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrooge

If you use logical thought, it will come

I did. My logic is 100% infallible I will have you know.

My logic tells me that this thread was (quite possibly) nothing more than a bit of flaming............... and flaming good fun it has been.

GypsyGoth · 11-12-2011, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

That looks quite interesting, might watch it later

I saw a good film the other day as well called Agora about Roman Egypt where Christianity had only just been allowed to be legal and there was loads of conflict with the Pagans until they driven out, then that just got replaced with conflict between Christians and Jews which also ended with the Christians again violently wrestling power from them. I think that's one of the problems with organised religion, all of them, there's a constant power struggle going on for supremacy, so that they can exert more influence and hold a more powerful presence in the world

Yep, it goes into the fact that there are other gods mentioned in the bible, and looks at evidence that one of them was god's wife.

And what you say about the major religions power struggle is always something that makes me think they are fake religions. Like I mean if there was a true religion we would all gravitate towards it, since it seems like these god characters want to be worshipped by us.

Marsh. · 11-12-2011, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrooge

I think you need to read the Bible if you think that's true

Hardly forgiving

Actually if you have read the bible you'd know that it says God can forgive anything as long as there is genuine sorrow and regret in your heart.

No crocodile tears.

Pyramid* · 11-12-2011, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh

Actually if you have read the bible you'd know that it says God can forgive anything as long as there is genuine sorrow and regret in your heart.

No crocodile tears.

GypsyGoth · 11-12-2011, 01:19 AM

Oh wow Pyra, your kitty got a santa hat

Fetch The Bolt Cutters · 11-12-2011, 01:19 AM

im very spiritual idk about religious i actually think one of my dogs could be jesus reincarnated coz he has these marks on his back where his fur changed color and they look just like wings so i think he is either jesus or an angel