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Old 21-12-2011, 12:41 PM #1
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Arrow Juror Matthew Banks says false illness 'was stupid'

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A juror who pretended he was sick so he could go to a West End musical, has been jailed for two weeks.

Matthew Banks, 19, told officials at Manchester Crown Court he was ill, but he had actually gone to London.

The trial Banks - who saw Chicago - was a juror for was halted for a day with the judge sending the jury home.

Judge Martin Rudland labelled the student "frivolous" and ordered he serve a 14-day sentence at a Young Offenders' Institution.

Judge Rudland said he was jailing Banks, who could spend Christmas in prison, for contempt of court "with a heavy heart" but that lying to court officials for such a frivolous reason was a serious offence.

The week-long trial later continued in Banks' absence with the remaining 11 jurors reaching a verdict, Judicial Communications Office officials said.
The student should have paid attention to the induction and taken this particular responsibility of citizenship more seriously .....

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Being a juror is a serious business. Like you say, I'm surprised he hadn't cottoned on to that fact.
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The student should have paid attention to the induction and taken this particular responsibility of citizenship more seriously .....
What IS IT with 19 year old students these days. Ah dunno.

Being the militant hard mare I am - I see not a thing wrong with this. Some of the young adults in this country need to learn that along with adult life, comes that thing known as responsibility.

Time they brought back national service as well. Give some of them something to bliddy well moan about.
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Lmao what a ridiculous reason to skip being a jury member.
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Yeah, it's wise for a juror to keep a low profile and not cross His Lordship .....
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What IS IT with 19 year old students these days. Ah dunno.

Being the militant hard mare I am - I see not a thing wrong with this. Some of the young adults in this country need to learn that along with adult life, comes that thing known as responsibility.

Time they brought back national service as well. Give some of them something to bliddy well moan about.
Personally, I'm all for the birch and transportation to the colonies, too .....

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What IS IT with 19 year old students these days. Ah dunno.

Being the militant hard mare I am - I see not a thing wrong with this. Some of the young adults in this country need to learn that along with adult life, comes that thing known as responsibility.

Time they brought back national service as well. Give some of them something to bliddy well moan about.
Bit of an overraction, talk about tarring everyone with the same brush!
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Personally, I'm all for the birch and transportation to the colonies, too .....

Yeah me too.

Whip me whip me but dont break the skin

Then ship me off to settle in Australia, do I get to take the kids?

Bondai Beach here I come.
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What IS IT with 19 year old students these days. Ah dunno.

Being the militant hard mare I am - I see not a thing wrong with this. Some of the young adults in this country need to learn that along with adult life, comes that thing known as responsibility.

Time they brought back national service as well. Give some of them something to bliddy well moan about.
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Bit of an overraction, talk about tarring everyone with the same brush!
Sarcasm Tom, lowest form of wit, but highest form of intelligence. Validated by the fllippant Ah dunno comment. Also migitaged by the use of the word 'some' further on in my post - twice!

I have to agree with Shasown here on this one: the cons definately got the better deal with Oz......
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Personally, I'm all for the birch and transportation to the colonies, too .....

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah....me too.


Would the death penalty be too much to ask for dealing with boy racers? Mmm.....I think so (but it would so bring down the cost of car insurance - there surely would be a benefit, safer roads, less congestion, less emissions to damage the planet). I think I've built up a good case here..... Can we go for that one too please? Pretty please?

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Sarcasm Tom, lowest form of wit, but highest form of intelligence. Validated by the fllippant Ah dunno comment. Also migitaged by the use of the word 'some' further on in my post - twice!

I have to agree with Shasown here on this one: the cons definately got the better deal with Oz......
Sarcasm doesn't come across well on the internet
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Sarcasm doesn't come across well on the internet
TBF, a wee smiley would have helped convey the message - my fault not yours! Omah most likely knew what I was getting at in respect of the humour (re the 19 student fare dodger!)
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Sarcasm doesn't come across well on the internet
Which is why more and more people are advocating the use of sarcasm markers, for those moments when you care enough to throw in a really subtle one e.g. ¬¬.
Or some of the wierd and wonderful unicode for Eastern European punctation.
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Which is why more and more people are advocating the use of sarcasm markers, for those moments when you care enough to throw in a really subtle one e.g. ¬¬.
Or some of the wierd and wonderful unicode for Eastern European punctation.
Better they advocate correct spelling first though, never mind sarcasm markers.

*Can we chuck you in the nick for a night for that, surely it's such a heinous crime?*
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Better they advocate correct spelling first though, never mind sarcasm markers.

*Can we chuck you in the nick for a night for that, surely it's such a heinous crime?*
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thats ****ing ridiculous
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Which - the OP story or Shasown's last post!
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the story

and the sentencing is ridic i meant not him skipping jury duty
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and the sentencing is ridic i meant not him skipping jury duty
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I get why people are inclined to try and get out of doing it - it's often inconvenient (any plans you might have had pretty much have to be cancelled; you need to take time off work) and I guess in some cases can be pretty scarring, depending on the nature of the trial. But mostly it's just very boring, I imagine, going by my brief experience in court as a witness - I had to wait around 4 hours before I got to go in and give my evidence, which took all of 10 minutes. I think having to sit through the entire length of the proceedings would be torture, I'm surprised I've never been called up to date actually - plenty of my friends have been.
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He could have at least skipped it for a GOOD musical.
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and the sentencing is ridic i meant not him skipping jury duty
The sentence is bang on.

The trial lasted a week, he will do a week in jail. Its a short sentence you only do half the time.

Dont forget though there is a knock on effect, which he wont be too impressed by. If any job he applies for asks about unspent convictions under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act he has to declare he received a prison sentence for the next seven years. Sort of undermines anything he writes about civic duties and responsibility in his CV or application form.
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Is there actually a way one can just avoid doing jury duty? I mean it seems a bit curious to have to do something like that.

-personally would want to-
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Is there actually a way one can just avoid doing jury duty? I mean it seems a bit curious to have to do something like that.

-personally would want to-
Feign madness or adopt a couple of children/a mad granny .....
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