[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Why should someone have to abdicate the throne just because they are homosexual? Why can't an adoptive child be part of the family?

Can be a part of the family, but not inherit the throne.

That's like grabbing someone off the street and saying "You want to be Queen?". It's called a "blood" line for a reason.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Can be a part of the family, but not inherit the throne.

That's like grabbing someone off the street and saying "You want to be Queen?". It's called a "blood" line for a reason.

so you believe the Windsor bloodline is superior to everyone elses bloodlines?? seriously???

That is by far the most racist thing ive ever heard anyone say.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

so you believe the Windsor bloodline is superior to everyone elses bloodlines?? seriously???

Superior? It's inherited.

Would you rather your grandmother's house and belongings passed down to her descendants or was put up for auction for other's to take.

[arista]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Superior? It's inherited.

Would you rather your grandmother's house and belongings passed down to her descendants or was put up for auction for other's to take.

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10 Outta 10 for 08marsh

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

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Education and History Lessons.



10 Outta10 for 08marsh

If my Grandmother stole her house from peasants and she lived her life steaing her income from poor people, then i'd want her house auctioned off to the highest bidder, and the money goes to all the people she stole from.

That is what the royals have done. all of their wealth comes from STEALING from the people of the UK.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

If my Grandmother stole her house from peasants and she lived her life steaing her income from poor people, then i'd want her house auctioned off to the highest bidder, and the money goes to all the people she stole from.

That is what the royals have done. all of their wealth comes from STEALING from the people of the UK.

The Royal Family had a lot of fortune and property taken away from them in the 1700s known as the "crown" estate and the government agreed to pay them a set amount of money towards the upkeep of their properties, wages to staff and grants for transportation and security. But they had the majority of their power taken away. They don't really have personal "salaries" per se but a vast personal fortune from the Queen's self owned palaces which are run like businesses to earn them money. The Queen also pays money back into the state which outweighs the grants that are paid to them.

The monarchy were "punished" sort of for the wealth stolen in having this "crown" estate seized by parliament and having a lot of their power taken away. They came to a truce to allow them to retain the head of state position and also power over our armed forces, who serve "Queen and country".

I've come to the conclusion I use "" too often. lmao.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

The Royal Family had a lot of fortune and property taken away from them in the 1700s known as the "crown" estate and the government agreed to pay them a set amount of money towards the upkeep of their properties, wages to staff and grants for transportation and security. But they had the majority of their power taken away. They don't really have personal "salaries" per se but a vast personal fortune from the Queen's self owned palaces which are run like businesses to earn them money.

Doesn't the Queen and others in the Royal Family also personally own the expensive gifts bestowed upon them by other Head of State, that are also included in their personal wealth? (I'm not sure myself), just a thought after reading your post.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

If my Grandmother stole her house from peasants and she lived her life steaing her income from poor people, then i'd want her house auctioned off to the highest bidder, and the money goes to all the people she stole from.

That is what the royals have done. all of their wealth comes from STEALING from the people of the UK.

Totally silly idea, but lets run with it.

Wasnt the area that is now New York bought for some blankets and bangles?

Bit unfair that eh? I dont think any court in the US would allow such unfair trading to be legally binding nowadays. So you do in fact advocate forcing everyone out of the area and allowing the descendants of the original natives to take control of it.

What about areas of land where the Native Americans were just forced out as opposed to being swindled?

Where on earth are you going to force all those displaced US citizens? Would any country want to take them in?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

That is by far the most racist thing ive ever heard anyone say.

That word is so misused it's untrue. It's not "racist" in the slightest. This is Britain, we're all British. One race.

I think I understand what you're trying to say, but racism is the wrong description.

And it's not an issue in the modern world because the Royal's don't have the power they once did. If they did, then I'm sure some would take issue.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

That word is so misused it's untrue. It's not "racist" in the slightest. This is Britain, we're all British. One race.

I think I understand what you're trying to say, but racism is the wrong description.

And it's not an issue in the modern world because the Royal's don't have the power they once did. If they did, then I'm sure some would take issue.

If they don't have power then what's the point? You say they are just tourist attractions like Mickey mouse at disney world, so what makes them qualified to be entertainers? The propaganda is also ridiculous, watching the british media drool over prince william in a helicopter, ,looks more like russian propaganda over Putin. It's disgraceful.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

If they don't have power then what's the point you say they are just tourist attractions like Mickey mouse at disney world, so what makes them qualified to be entertainers? The propaganda is also ridiculous, watching the british media drool over price william in a helicopter, ,looks more like russian propaganda over Putin. It's disgraceful.

I'd say the worldwide press are more positive about the Royals than the British ones. That's more "fans" like any other "celebrity" for doing his charity work etc. But as for worldwide coverage that's part of their role, to keep British relations with other countries.

You say qualified? They are in the Royal bloodline dating back through history.

Except as the years have passed their importance is diminishing, I don't think the Monarchy will last another 100 years or less they'll be completely abolished come that time.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

That word is so misused it's untrue. It's not "racist" in the slightest. This is Britain, we're all British. One race.

No. British is not a race.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by SoBig

No. British is not a race.

Neither are separate family lines. As I said to lostalex, race isn't the issue.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i never said British is a race, stop putting words in my mouth. Quote me if you can.

Ok...

Originally Posted by lostalex

so you believe the Windsor bloodline is superior to everyone elses bloodlines?? seriously???

That is by far the most racist thing ive ever heard anyone say.

How is it racist?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Ok...



How is it racist?

umm, saying someone's bloodline is worthy of royalty is racist, it's the most obvious form of racism ever.

It obviously implies that every one else's bloodline is not good enuf to be royalty.

Exclusion based on your family bloodline is obviously racist.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

umm, saying someone's bloodline is worthy of royalty is racist, it's the most obvious form of racism ever.

It obviously implies that every one else's bloodline is not good enuf to be royalty.

Again, that can be deemed as discrimination, NOT racism.

And, again, it doesn't really matter anymore. Their power has been significantly diminished and they inherit mostly their own family's wealth and fortune so why would they give it to someone outside the family? Hence my comparison to your grandmother's house.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by lostalex

umm, saying someone's bloodline is worthy of royalty is racist, it's the most obvious form of racism ever.

It obviously implies that every one else's bloodline is not good enuf to be royalty.

Exclusion based on your family bloodline is obviously racist.

The fact that someone already part of the Royal Family gives birth, that child then by way of blood, also becomes part of it.

It seems the words 'hereditary' and 'bloodlines' may possibly be ones that you don't quite understand if you aren't able to grasp that they are nothing to do with racism.

Looks like this is just another Bash The Brits thread from our fellow fms across the Pond.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

The fact that someone already part of the Royal Family gives birth, that child then by way of blood, also becomes part of it.

It seems the words 'hereditary' and 'bloodlines' may possibly be ones that you don't quite understand if you aren't able to grasp that they are nothing to do with racism.

Looks like this is just another Bash The Brits thread from our fellow fms across the Pond.

How is it bash the Brits??

Britain is not the only country with a hereditary Monarchy, I'd say the same thing about any monarchy, not just the British one, so i'm not singling out Brits.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by lostalex

How is it bash the Brits??

Britain is not the only country with a hereditary Monarchy, I'd say the same thing about any monarchy, not just the British one, so i'm not singling out Brits.

Your churlish attempts to infer that the Royal Family are racist, that's what I'm referring to. I did not state you were singling out the Brits, but you are on a UK forum therefore it is pertinent.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by lostalex

umm, saying someone's bloodline is worthy of royalty is racist, it's the most obvious form of racism ever.

It obviously implies that every one else's bloodline is not good enuf to be royalty.

Exclusion based on your family bloodline is obviously racist.

Not really the case. The next (Should Charles abdicate) Queen would have come from a working class family. With William being King of course.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Glenn

Not really the case. The next (Should Charles abdicate) Queen would have come from a working class family. With William being King of course.

Exactly. ^^^^