[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

well what would you do if you had a fat shrew harassing you???

I think we all know what we'd like to do, and prolly what michael would like to do, but obviously he can't do that.

Both as bad as each other, but she spends most of the day vertical,he doesnt

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Both as bad as each other, but she spends most of the day vertical,he doesnt

he doesn't have the oppurtunity to socialize, she terrorizes him whenever he tries to join the group.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by lostalex

well what would you do if you had a fat shrew harassing you???

I think we all know what we'd like to do, and prolly what michael would like to do, but obviously he can't do that.

If I had a 'fat shrew' such as Michael following me around I certainly wouldn't be giving him a massage that's for certain. It would only make him believe he had a chance when in fact he does not.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

he doesn't have the oppurtunity to socialize, she terrorizes him whenever he tries to join the group.

Oh please

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I thought Andrew was lovely to him,but Michael is so far up is own rear he turned on Andrew

That's how I interpreted it too, but I've heard so many cries of 'he's just friendly with him because it's in his own interests that I'm not so sure. Andrew isn't someone who makes much sense to me.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

If I had a 'fat shrew' such as Michael following me around I certainly wouldn't be giving him a massage that's for certain. It would only make him believe he had a chance when in fact he does not.

Now you are are just clearly posting rubbish, when has Michael ever followed Denise around in there?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

That's how I interpreted it too, but I've heard so many cries of 'he's just friendly with him because it's in his own interests that I'm not so sure. Andrew isn't someone who makes much sense to me.

Andrew gave more entertainment to the house than lots of the others( some of it cringworthy, but still entertaining ),IMO Michael betrayed him

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Josy

Now you are are just clearly posting rubbish, when has Michael ever followed Denise around in there?

before the problems arose Michael gave Denise a massage in the kitchen, Denise was clearly loving it and interpreting it as more than just a massage. If you are not interested in someone it is cruel to give them the impression that you are, and if you do, then you reap what you sow. That's what is happening to Michael now imo.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Now you are are just clearly posting rubbish, when has Michael ever followed Denise around in there?

He has his spats with her, then slopes off to the bedroom to either talk to the cameras or backstab her to anyone who will listen

[Josy]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

before the problems arose Michael gave Denise a massage in the kitchen, Denise was clearly loving it and interpreting it as more than just a massage. If you are not interested in someone it is cruel to give them the impression that you are, and if you do, then you reap what you sow. That's what is happening to Michael now imo.

He gave her 1 massage, so did Gareth did he lead her on too?

If you are going to debate at least debate with truths not lies, he has never once followed her around in there so why post that?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

before the problems arose Michael gave Denise a massage in the kitchen, Denise was clearly loving it and interpreting it as more than just a massage. If you are not interested in someone it is cruel to give them the impression that you are, and if you do, then you reap what you sow. That's what is happening to Michael now imo.

So.....by that logic, Gareth also fancies Denise and Andrew fancied Michael?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He has his spats with her, then slopes off to the bedroom to either talk to the cameras or backstab her to anyone who will listen

Again I think it's pretty clear you never read my post, he does not and hasnt ever followed Denise around in that house.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Again I think it's pretty clear you never read my post, he does not and hasnt ever followed Denise around in that house.

Seeing as hes laid on his bed 23 hours a day you could well be right ,but hes NOT a poor little picked on innocent either,

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Josy

He gave her 1 massage, so did Gareth did he lead her on too?

If you are going to debate at least debate with truths not lies, he has never once followed her around in there so why post that?

It seems to me that you have no arguments other than to use derogatory insults like 'you post rubbish' or 'lies'. I'd advise you that you are out of your depth if that's the case.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So.....by that logic, Gareth also fancies Denise and Andrew fancied Michael?

Maybe they do, I have no idea.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

It seems to me that you have no arguments other than to use derogatory insults like 'you post rubbish' or 'lies'. I'd advise you that you are out of your depth if that's the case.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Maybe they do, I have no idea.

Gareth is jumping back into the closet then?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

It seems to me that you have no arguments other than to use derogatory insults like 'you post rubbish' or 'lies'. I'd advise you that you are out of your depth if that's the case.

I posted my arguments but because you can't reply you start throwing around accusations?

And I also don't need you to advise me on anything thank you

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So.....by that logic, Gareth also fancies Denise and Andrew fancied Michael?

egggsactly. basically the people who are denise's side are saying he'd be damned if he did and damned if he didn't, MIchael was trying to be friendly with her at first, so that means he deserves everything he gets? It's basically like FATAL ATTRACTION.

So basically Michael should just be rude and horrible to her, because if he's polite to her, then that means he DESERVERS to be harassed and terrorized?

[fruit_cake]

If I gave someone a massage it would probably be because I liked them or there was absolutely no feeling whatsoever. If it were the latter, it would be because it was plainly obvious to everybody that I had no interest in that person other than friendship and visa versa.

I don't think you can say that about the massage that Michael and Denise shared. I'm not saying everyone acts like I do, but if you don't want problems don't get involved. Michael got involved and now he has problems.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

If I gave someone a massage it would probably be because I liked them or there was absolutely no feeling whatsoever. If it were the latter, it would be because it was plainly obvious to everybody that I had no interest in that person other than friendship and visa versa.

I don't think you can say that about the massage that Michael and Denise shared. I'm not saying everyone acts like I do, but if you don't want problems don't get involved. Michael got involved and now he has problems.

I have no problem giving females masages , i'm gay though, so does that mean i should never give any females a massage because they might think i'm comming on to them? If they go ape-sh!t like denise, then it's my own fault for being friends with a woman that i'm not attracted to??
really?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

egggsactly. basically the people who are denise's side are saying he'd be damned if he did and damned if he didn't, MIchael was trying to be friendly with her at first, so that means he deserves everything he gets? It's basically like FATAL ATTRACTION.

I am on NO side ,I see things the Michael/Denise fans dont look for, they need to take off the rose tinted specs and see things as the really are ,BOTH as bad as each other, without Denise Michael is nothing, his highlights will be him backstabbing her and talking to the camera about her ,or laid on his bed !! enthralling? not in my eyes

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

egggsactly. basically the people who are denise's side are saying he'd be damned if he did and damned if he didn't, MIchael was trying to be friendly with her at first, so that means he deserves everything he gets? It's basically like FATAL ATTRACTION.

So basically Michael should just be rude and horrible to her, because if he's polite to her, then that means he DESERVERS to be harassed and terrorized?

Even her "friends" know she's out of order with him when she's drunk. They really should tell her to take her husbands advice and lay of the booze while she's in there, she's embarrassing herself.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Josy

I posted my arguments but because you can't reply you start throwing around accusations?

And I also don't need you to advise me on anything thank you

Insults are not arguments, they are words thrown in to cover up lack of arguments. Every single person in this forum knows that so don't blame me as it's not my fault, and I'm just the messenger. The normal process when you insult someone is to apologise.

I have not once stated that Michael was following her around. Not even once you are insulting me about things I have never even said, so get your facts straight before you stumble in next time.

I have nothing else to say to you on the matter.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

It seems to me that you have no arguments other than to use derogatory insults like 'you post rubbish' or 'lies'. I'd advise you that you are out of your depth if that's the case.

You are clearly watching a different show. But then, I always think that of you when I see who you're backing.