[the truth]

Originally Posted by crocs

I think Denise thinks that it's all just their kind of humour and I thought so too until recently. The other night Michael was still stroking her hair when she talked strange things as usual but yesterday something had changed. But Denise cannot read him at all and therefore she doesn't get that he wants her out from his face.

Now, this is a bit off topic, but suits to Denise and Michael's relationship as well. I was surprised how little these celebrities know how to interact with each other (or at least that's how it's portrayed). It feels that at times when two people are talking with each other, it's more like they're talking at each other. Like they havin separate conversations as neither actually continues the other person's thoughts. It's weird and it made me think that do celebrities just talk by themselves and no-one is usually allowed to cut in and express their views. Soliloquays and celebrities seem to go together. :/

its not just celebrities..the basic art of conversation was lost years ago...you know one persons talks the other one listens then they talk and so it goes...

michael is a throwback to proper communicators where he actually listens, he actually asks the real questions when he gets the right moment one to one, he then responds and on we go, he also doesnt talk for the sake of it, he said 1 word in one episode and stole the whole show, when looking at natasha in heels , she said are you feeling horny michael, YESSS he bellowed. he used 4 words to sum up denise i think it was "pretentios, incomprehensible, drunken bitch amen...then later abominable.....5 words....she spouted 10001 and said nothing all day...empty vessels make most noice........some people have got the x factor some havent

but he is very chatty when hes comfortable with the environment. once what he says gets deliberately taken the wrong way as it was with the 3 witches, hes out of the room. very smart....the 3 witches play dumb and are ignorant sly and manipulative as heck. dreadful dreadful self centred people. theyve lost all subtley and nuisance. nichola is just a plank and natalie is playing dumb.

[Scotty07]

Originally Posted by the truth

its not just celebrities..the basic art of conversation was lost years ago...you know one persons talks the other one listens then they talk and so it goes...

michael is a throwback to proper communicators where he actually listens, he actually asks the real questions when he gets the right moment one to one, he then responds and on we go, he also doesnt talk for the sake of it, he said 1 word in one episode and stole the whole show, when looking at natasha in heels , she said are you feeling horny michael, YESSS he bellowed. he used 4 words to sum up denise i think it was "pretentios, incomprehensible, drunken bitch amen...then later abominable.....5 words....she spouted 10001 and said nothing all day...empty vessels make most noice........some people have got the x factor some havent

but he is very chatty when hes comfortable with the environment. once what he says gets deliberately taken the wrong way as it was with the 3 witches, hes out of the room. very smart....the 3 witches play dumb and are ignorant sly and manipulative as heck. dreadful dreadful self centred people. theyve lost all subtley and nuisance. nichola is just a plank and natalie is playing dumb.

It's a real shame that there is no one in there that he can just sit down and chill with and have a laugh. They always pick too many predictable and uninteresting desperate fame hungry types and not enough Michael Madsens, Terry Christians, Dirk Benedicts, George Galloways etc etc.

I know Coolio was loud and in your face sometimes, but him Tommy Sheridan and Terry Christian used to chill and talk for hours on live feed. I know that's not everyone's cup of tea, but it makes the show more interesting and is a nice alternative to the predictable glamour model/soap actors/actresses/ex boy band/girl band types with nothing interesting to say imo.

I am not saying they shouldn't put idiots like Kinky Kirk in or nasty b*tches, boring glamour model types or the safe floaters or the followers etc., but I just like it to be more even rather than the lone odd man out/fish out of water type which is what has happened with Michael, although I do still find him the most entertaining in there.

I guess it's just a lot harder to persuade the more interesting celebs/has been celebs to go in there and the Kinky Kirk types are much, much cheaper.

[crocs]

Originally Posted by the truth

its not just celebrities..the basic art of conversation was lost years ago...you know one persons talks the other one listens then they talk and so it goes...

michael is a throwback to proper communicators where he actually listens, he actually asks the real questions when he gets the right moment one to one, he then responds and on we go, he also doesnt talk for the sake of it, he said 1 word in one episode and stole the whole show, when looking at natasha in heels , she said are you feeling horny michael, YESSS he bellowed. he used 4 words to sum up denise i think it was "pretentios, incomprehensible, drunken bitch amen...then later abominable.....5 words....she spouted 10001 and said nothing all day...empty vessels make most noice........some people have got the x factor some havent

but he is very chatty when hes comfortable with the environment. once what he says gets deliberately taken the wrong way as it was with the 3 witches, hes out of the room. very smart....the 3 witches play dumb and are ignorant sly and manipulative as heck. dreadful dreadful self centred people. theyve lost all subtley and nuisance. nichola is just a plank and natalie is playing dumb.

I think Michael and Romeo know the art of listening. It's a shame we don't really see what kind of conversations Romeo has though. Michael listens but I think there's so much going on in his brain that he doesn't know where to start and what to say. He stars a lot of sentences but doesn't finish them.

The other day I saw Denise having a proper converstation (with Natalie, I think) and it was flowing properly but unfortunately, the only way it flows with Denise is if it's about her, not the others.

Gareth might be listening but the way he says something is so far from what the other person said, that I don't always get the thought process behind it. Michael brings good conversation topics to the table (unfortunately we only see so little).

We'll see how it all changes (if it does) now that two more people were evicted.

Anyhow, Denise should let Michael be and not just follow him like a puppy but like she said, she's a people pleaser and unfortunately they often pick the hardest one to please.