[kefln]

Originally Posted by Knitting Nana

Thats three out n out lies I've heard him tell, the last one being last night saying that nicola HAD consulted everyone before she shredded the letters.

Does he forget its all on film? Does he just not care?

I cant remember who was in the room at the time he said this but if anyone else from that (letters) group was there why didnt they speak up??

They discussed it for about 5-10 mins before the clock started.

Nicola said straight away that she was going to push the button. No one objected, which in any court of law means consent. I think what no one expected was for Nicola to react so quickly to the count down.

Meanwhile, in the task room, the other HM's had agreed not to push the button at any cost. Therefore acknowledging the fact that they were ok with not getting their personal letters.

After coming out of the task room they all hugged Nicola and said that they were ok with it. And as far as I can remember Denise supported her 100% by saying that she was thinking of the fact that Nicola had younger kids to worry about.

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by Knitting Nana

Thats three out n out lies I've heard him tell, the last one being last night saying that nicola HAD consulted everyone before she shredded the letters.

Does he forget its all on film? Does he just not care?

I cant remember who was in the room at the time he said this but if anyone else from that (letters) group was there why didnt they speak up??

Michael is in his own crazy world .

[lostalex]

She discussed it with the group before she did it, and the group supported her. All of the members of her group had plenty of time to tell her off, or disagree with her, but none did, so Nicola was not lying, and neither was Michael.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by dyfed

Michael is in his own crazy world .

Dyfed, on your signature pic...from that thread that was deleted...

Can the twins blame the Denise for this:











Because if these actions were done by a drunk 53 year old man, he'd be out of the house in a heart beat. But because the girls are who they are and Denise plays the victim so very well, we have people putting signatures like yours up...

Just a thought.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by dyfed

Michael is in his own crazy world .

Add to that his head is razzled through drink ,drugs ,and hopefully guilt over failing to keep his children and failure to pay back the Łms he owes his ex mates and youve summed it up right

[kefln]

Originally Posted by lostalex

She discussed it with the group before she did it, and the group supported her. All of the members of her group had plenty of time to tell her off, or disagree with her, but none did, so Nicola was not lying, and neither was Michael.

Well said.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Add to that his head is razzled through drink ,drugs ,and hopefully guilt over failing to keep his children and failure to pay back the Łms he owes his ex mates and youve summed it up right

You really do believe every bit of gossip on the net, don't you. Well, so long as it's confirming your own dislikes of course.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

You really do believe every bit of gossip on the net, don't you. Well, so long as it's confirming your own dislikes of course.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Mature.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Nicola did say to the room that she was pressing it and is everyone ok with it, I just don't think anyone replied

Correct...they had a couple of minutes before the task started and Nicola just talked about how much she wanted her letter and tried to justify that they all had kids.... she asked the others if they were ok with it but they all looked a little uncomfortable and said very little.

So Michael was right but he didnt explain it as it was....

[chuff me dizzy]

If anyone still thinks the CBB crown will go over the pond,think again Uk voters will NOT allow it ,watch this as just one reason why http://apps.facebook.com/celeb-bigbr...ction-morning/

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

If anyone still thinks the CBB crown will go over the pond,think again Uk voters will NOT allow it ,watch this as just one reason why http://apps.facebook.com/celeb-bigbr...ction-morning/

I Agree. There's no way the UK public would ever allow an American to win. But not for the reasons YOU are trying to say. For sinister xenophobic reasons.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I Agree. There's no way the UK public would ever allow an American to win. But not for the reasons YOU are trying to say. For sinister xenophobic reasons.

[Knitting Nana]

Before Nicola decided for everyone else at least two people said ‘they can have their letters' (meaning the other group) and ‘I’m not saving mine’. She didn’t consult anyone she said ‘I’m doing it, I want my letter’ and immediately did it - that is not consultation.

As she’s pressing the button Kirk can clearly be heard saying ‘i cant do it, i cant do that to gareth’ (who is in the other group) Romeo also says ‘I cant, I cant.'

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Knitting Nana

Before Nicola decided for everyone else at least two people said ‘they can have their letters' (meaning the other group) and ‘I’m not saving mine’. She didn’t consult anyone she said ‘I’m doing it, I want my letter’ and immediately did it - that is not consultation.

As she’s pressing the button Kirk can clearly be heard saying ‘i cant do it, i cant do that to gareth’ (who is in the other group) Romeo also says ‘I cant, I cant.'

Nicola did say before the coundown began that she wanted her letter, noone said no to her.
Kirk & Romeo said they could not shred, still noone said anything to Nicola.
They all knew what her intentions were before the coundown began.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Knitting Nana

Before Nicola decided for everyone else at least two people said ‘they can have their letters' (meaning the other group) and ‘I’m not saving mine’. She didn’t consult anyone she said ‘I’m doing it, I want my letter’ and immediately did it - that is not consultation.

As she’s pressing the button Kirk can clearly be heard saying ‘i cant do it, i cant do that to gareth’ (who is in the other group) Romeo also says ‘I cant, I cant.'

One second ,hardly time to discuss anything ,thats why she pretended to be a quivering wreck afterwards

[JonRC]

One second ,hardly time to discuss anything

what on earth are you watching? cos I clearly saw them talking about it for quite a while before the countdown started

[Ellen]

They had time before the countdown began which is when Nicola said what she wanted to do.
If it had been me i would have said you cant make that decision, we need to discuss it has a group.
Noone said no to her so she did it.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Knitting Nana

Lordy - for those giving all the comments that were said AFTER the button was pushed: I said in my op about nicola not consulting everyone before she shredded the letters.

The comments given AFTERWARDS do not count as consulting. She was already on her feet and doing it while she said she was going to do she didnt wait for anyone's comments. She didnt give anyone time to speak.

As big brother were reading out the rules Kirk said 'oh they can have their letters' then a few seconds later someone else says 'I'm not saving mine' then nicola says 'they havent got children, people with children should have the letters. Go, I'm doing it, I want my letter. She does not 'consult' them at all she TELLS them she's going to do then immediately does it.

And michael lied about it.

You need to watch that again me old fruit...

As soon as the rules became clear and they had about 1 minute BEFORE the timer started Nicola said (along the lines of)

"Im really sorry guys I know this is selfish but I have to get my letters, Im going to press it"

Michael quietly agreed, Natalie sat on the fence (im sure she wanted hers to) Kirk dithered a bit and ONLY romeo said he wasnt comfortable with it.

WATCH it again before shooting off rubbish about lies which actually werent lies at all.

The FACT is that they did know before she pressed it and none of them backed her up despite Denise being flat out wrong. Denise was also told by Gareth that none of them should press it cause Nicola and Natalie needed their letters, a point she agreed with COMPLETELY at the time and later said to Nicolas face she was happy she pressed it.

Denise was just looking for ammo to deflect attention from her own drunken pathetic behaviour and this was it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

If anyone still thinks the CBB crown will go over the pond,think again Uk voters will NOT allow it ,watch this as just one reason why http://apps.facebook.com/celeb-bigbr...ction-morning/

Originally Posted by lostalex

I Agree. There's no way the UK public would ever allow an American to win. But not for the reasons YOU are trying to say. For sinister xenophobic reasons.

Can you two please cut it it out. Anyone making xenophobic comments will be infracted.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Can you two please cut it it out. Anyone making xenophobic comments will be infracted.

well i've never made anything even remotely close to a xenophobic comment, so i know you arn't talking to me.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

well i've never made anything even remotely close to a xenophobic comment, so i know you arn't talking to me.

No, I was just letting you know that we are clamping down on it and be sure to report any comments that you think are xenophobic.

[lostalex]

sounds fair to me.

[supergirthuk]

Mike did not lie in this matter. Denise lied saying that she wasn't bothered about a letter when she so obviously was.

One thing is certain though, Denise won't be friends with Nicola after the show when she sees her pressing that button saying "Shred, Shred, Shred, Shred..." as she did it.

Lucky Nicola if you ask me. Who needs an idiot like Welch as your friend anyway?

[supergirthuk]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Denise was just looking for ammo to deflect attention from her own drunken pathetic behaviour and this was it.

Exactly this.