Originally Posted by Niamh.

Also, being patriotic to your country, imo, includes the people, it not just the land itself.

Patriotism is love and devotion to your country, and willingness to sacrifice for it.

I just don't understand a patriotic way of thinking. It's just not in my nature. I understand that people do buy into this land-defined loyalty, but it's not me.

There is no right or wrong here, it's just a remnant from our evolutionary tribal past.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Patriotism is love and devotion to your country, and willingness to sacrifice for it.

I just don't understand a patriotic way of thinking. It's just not in my nature. I understand that people do buy into this land-defined loyalty, but it's not me.

There is no right or wrong here, it's just a remnant from our evolutionary tribal past.

Yes, but a country is not just the land, it's the people, the customs, the way of life.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes, but a country is not just the land, it's the people, the customs, the way of life.

I accept that, but it's still tribal. I don't feel closer to people that I don't know, because they live 20 miles away, rather than thousands of miles away.

It's people and customs that happen to take place upon one piece of land, as opposed to another.

I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong. It's how we all view things as individuals, but I can't get my head around patriotism.