[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Yes, they are. If someone takes female hormones and looks and feels female, and they are recognised legally as female then they are female.

Except they will still have the Y chromosome, of course. So legally, aesthetically and psychologically they made be regarded as a woman... genetically they will still be a man.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

Except they will still have the Y chromosome, of course. So legally, aesthetically and psychologically they made be regarded as a woman... genetically they will still be a man.

genetically we are 98% identical to apes, so what? What's your point?

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Except they will still have the Y chromosome, of course. So legally, aesthetically and psychologically they made be regarded as a woman... genetically they will still be a man.

They can still fall in love and get married and even adopt children. I don't see the big deal about it.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

They can still fall in love and get married and even adopt children. I don't see the big deal about it.

I don't see the big deal about it either. If that's what an adult (not a five year old child) wants and it will make them feel like a complete person, then that's their choice. But you said, along with a little laughing emoticon: "... If someone takes female hormones and looks and feels female, and they are recognised legally as female then they are female". When actually, they still have the XY chromosome and not the XX chromosome, so genetically they are not, and never will be, a woman.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't see the big deal about it either. If that's what an adult (not a five year old child) wants and it will make them feel like a complete person, then that's their choice. But you said, along with a little laughing emoticon: "... If someone takes female hormones and looks and feels female, and they are recognised legally as female then they are female". When actually, they still have the XY chromosome and not the XX chromosome, so genetically they are not, and never will be, a woman.

how many people have had a genetic test to prove whether they have an XX or XY? do you carry around proof?

If you think XX or XY can determine or define someone then you are ignorant. Human beings are infinitely complex, and those 2 letters are not as important as you seem to think.