[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

Examples?

People who have lost their jobs due to the state of the current climate, people who have become ill and cannot work, people with learning difficulties..... I am sure I could think of many more.

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

People who have lost their jobs due to the state of the current climate, people who have become ill and cannot work, people with learning difficulties..... I am sure I could think of many more.

First one fair enough, but in-time that is likely to correct itself. The others may be not from own doing but in both cases they can receive benefits, yes maybe not to the degree they would want but that is just a unfortunate truth. Anyway that forms a hugely minor sector of the population and doesn't really change the fact I was making. I will however state a rephrasement and I will say healthy people on low incomes.

Plus most people on low incomes obtain cars, satellite television and lots of other goods that are considered wants rather than needs. They have not a leg to stand on to complain about not being able to afford food until they give up the majority of goods considered 'luxury'. We were given legs for a reason but the majority of people drive everywhere.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

First one fair enough, but in-time that is likely to correct itself. The others may be not from own doing but in both cases they can receive benefits, yes maybe not to the degree they would want but that is just a unfortunate truth. Anyway that forms a hugely minor sector of the population and doesn't really change the fact I was making. I will however state a rephrasement and I will say healthy people on low incomes.

Plus most people on low incomes obtain cars, satellite television and lots of other goods that are considered wants rather than needs. They have not a leg to stand on to complain about not being able to afford food until they give up the majority of goods considered 'luxury'. We were given legs for a reason but the majority of people drive everywhere.

Do you have facts and figures or is that supposition?

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

Do you have facts and figures or is that supposition?

Supposition but it is the truth. I bet that well over 90% of low income households own at least one relatively expensive good that could be deemed unnecessary or 'luxury'.

[arista]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

Supposition but it is the truth. I bet that well over 90% of low income households own at least one relatively expensive good that could be deemed unnecessary or 'luxury'.

Yes Charlie
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Life In The Fast Lane

Originally Posted by CharlieO

Supposition but it is the truth. I bet that well over 90% of low income households own at least one relatively expensive good that could be deemed unnecessary or 'luxury'.

Like what? A playstation? A fridge? A cooker?

What kind of existence asks someone to sit inside a square box? Why don't we lock up all poor people? That way, we can ensure they get 3 square meals a day, but don't have access to an x-box.

I hate this myth that all poor people are sitting on their arses just waiting for government money. Some people are like that, of course. But it's completely ludicrous to suggest that our fellow brothers and sisters are all scroungers.

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Like what? A playstation? A fridge? A cooker?

What kind of existence asks someone to sit inside a square box? Why don't we lock up all poor people? That way, we can ensure they get 3 square meals a day, but don't have access to an x-box.

I hate this myth that all poor people are sitting on their arses just waiting for government money. Some people are like that, of course. But it's completely ludicrous to suggest that our fellow brothers and sisters are all scroungers.

A fridge and a cooker are fair enough as they could be argued both essential and luxury. But a playstation is by no means necessary and if they do not have sufficient money for food then they should not be acquiring those sorts of goods in my opinion.

People in the Uk on supposedly low incomes/benefits are extremely fortunate in comparison to people in LEDC's, who live off less than one US$ a day. Benefit receivers are so incredibly lucky that the government pays them for doing nothing and millions of people round the would would kill to get roughly £10 a day to live off.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

Supposition but it is the truth. I bet that well over 90% of low income households own at least one relatively expensive good that could be deemed unnecessary or 'luxury'.

I don't actually see anything wrong with that if they have an item/s of what could be termed luxury.

The item/s could have been acquired in better times for those concerned or even been gifts from others helping out, often for speople struggling, some people find it easier to give expensive gifts rather than financial help, they may even be items passed on from relatives as they upgrade.

If they are buying such items they will likely be paying heavy interest for them and paying weekly for them,as the only way to have them rather than buying them outright.

I certainly don't begrudge those on low incomes having some 'special' items.

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't actually see anything wrong with that if they have an item/s of what could be termed luxury.

The item/s could have been acquired in better times for those concerned or even been gifts from others helping out, often for speople struggling, some people find it easier to give expensive gifts rather than financial help, they may even be items passed on from relatives as they upgrade.

If they are buying such items they will likely be paying heavy interest for them and paying weekly for them,as the only way to have them rather than buying them outright.

I certainly don't begrudge those on low incomes having some 'special' items.

Well I do when they complain about not being able to afford food. Gifts are another matter, I meant purchasing them for themselves.

Originally Posted by CharlieO

Well I do when they complain about not being able to afford food. Gifts are another matter, I meant purchasing them for themselves.

Give examples of these luxury items that the poor shouldn't have.