[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't actually see anything wrong with that if they have an item/s of what could be termed luxury.

The item/s could have been acquired in better times for those concerned or even been gifts from others helping out, often for speople struggling, some people find it easier to give expensive gifts rather than financial help, they may even be items passed on from relatives as they upgrade.

If they are buying such items they will likely be paying heavy interest for them and paying weekly for them,as the only way to have them rather than buying them outright.

I certainly don't begrudge those on low incomes having some 'special' items.

Well I do when they complain about not being able to afford food. Gifts are another matter, I meant purchasing them for themselves.

Originally Posted by CharlieO

Well I do when they complain about not being able to afford food. Gifts are another matter, I meant purchasing them for themselves.

Give examples of these luxury items that the poor shouldn't have.

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Give examples of these luxury items that the poor shouldn't have.

Cars (we have legs for a reason), televisions, games consoles, mobile phones, and computers. To name a few.

Originally Posted by CharlieO

Cars (we have legs for a reason), televisions, games consoles, mobile phones, and computers. To name a few.

Cars can be a necessity, not a luxury.

Do you seriously think that people shouldn't have access to TV's/x-box's or computers? So what exactly would they be doing on a daily basis if they have no access to entertainment?

How do you think that would affect their mental health? Many times these items are bought from catalogs. Aren't clothes a luxury item, too?

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Cars can be a necessity, not a luxury.

Do you seriously think that people shouldn't have access to TV's/x-box's or computers? So what exactly would they be doing on a daily basis if they have no access to entertainment?

How do you think that would affect their mental health? Many times these items are bought from catalogs. Aren't clothes a luxury item, too?

Cars are not a necessity. Humans survived for a very long time without them and there is public transport available.
Once again, humans lived fine without television before the 20th century so why can they not now? Humans in LEDC's continue to live without television in places such as Africa and Asia. It is laughable that you asked what would they be doing throughout the day without 'entertainment', maybe they should be working in that time to try earn more money.

Clothes are a necessity as it is against the law to be naked, but excessive amounts of clothes are luxury.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

Cars are not a necessity. Humans survived for a very long time without them and there is public transport available.
Once again, humans lived fine without television before the 20th century so why can they not now? Humans in LEDC's continue to live without television in places such as Africa and Asia. It is laughable that you asked what would they be doing throughout the day without 'entertainment', maybe they should be working in that time to try earn more money.

Clothes are a necessity as it is against the law to be naked, but excessive amounts of clothes are luxury.

Can't really argue with this post as I agree,we have had so much over the the years all we want is more,we think we are entitalled to have what we want,and think we are hard done by if we don't have all the things on offer,that is why we hate the budget taking stuff off us,it's akin to taking a toy off a child.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

Cars are not a necessity. Humans survived for a very long time without them and there is public transport available.
Once again, humans lived fine without television before the 20th century so why can they not now? Humans in LEDC's continue to live without television in places such as Africa and Asia. It is laughable that you asked what would they be doing throughout the day without 'entertainment', maybe they should be working in that time to try earn more money.

Clothes are a necessity as it is against the law to be naked, but excessive amounts of clothes are luxury.

They actually are for some people who depend on them for getting around and who otherwise be confined to their homes. And please don't tell me they can utilise public transport.

In regards to the comment "Once again, humans lived fine without television before the 20th century so why can they not now? Humans in LEDC's continue to live without television in places such as Africa and Asia. It is laughable that you asked what would they be doing throughout the day without 'entertainment', maybe they should be working in that time to try earn more money."

I don't actually think it was asked what would people do for entertainment "throughout the day" but actually "on a daily basis". People on low incomes can work during the day and watch tv in the evening, or vice versa. I would not begrudge anyone for having a standard tv. Maybe they could work day and night though to accommodate such a luxury though...

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

They actually are for some people who depend on them for getting around and who otherwise be confined to their homes. And please don't tell me they can utilise public transport.

In regards to the comment "Once again, humans lived fine without television before the 20th century so why can they not now? Humans in LEDC's continue to live without television in places such as Africa and Asia. It is laughable that you asked what would they be doing throughout the day without 'entertainment', maybe they should be working in that time to try earn more money."

I don't actually think it was asked what would people do for entertainment "throughout the day" but actually "on a daily basis". People on low incomes can work during the day and watch tv in the evening, or vice versa. I would not begrudge anyone for having a standard tv. Maybe they could work day and night though to accommodate such a luxury though...

It is still an unnecessary good. They can dance, they can make up stories, they can sing, they can do anything else the millions of people in the world do who don't own a bloody tv. For people to even think tv is necessary is so absolutely ridiculous it is unreal, is that really the culture we are in, that life is only deemed liveable if we have TV. For gods sake, really.