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Originally Posted by kizzy

Are you referring to punishment? Belting children is unethical and illegal so thats out im afraid
If you have funds you can work wonders as you say, state schools are failing as they dont have the time, funds, resources to put into the kids they have.
Blaming the teachers is a cop out.
And yes the strike is primarily relating to pensions, but these other issues are relevant to the morale of state run schoolteachers I feel.

No, no, I was referring to the toilet training issue.

Blaming the teachers is not a cop out. It is reality. not all of them of course, that would be ludicrious to suggest that. They may not have an easy job but very few people in life DO have easy jobs.

My own education was probably 60/40 state and private - and I can assure you - there was no issue in my levels of education or high standards throughout all of my state schooling. So much so that when I began private schooling - I was far more ahead in the curriculum. Private schooling did offer tremendous benefits of which I am thankful for - but let's not pretend private school teachers have an easier time. They don't.

The private pupils however do have more respect overall though, for their teachers and their studies. If that wasn't the case: then private schools would not have the success rates that they do.

Much of the lost respect from pupils comes from *imo* a distinct drop in the way many parents raise their children now - with discipline sadly lacking in many cases. i don't mean abuse -I mean effective discipline.

Perhaps it is the calibre of teachers allowed to be qualified that needs to be put into question.... perhaps they aren't made of the right stuff but given that like nursing: it's a career that is nose diving: that they are left with many who would not have made it in the teaching world years ago. *note - not all, not by a long shot, there are many brilliant teachers out there who are tarred with this unfortunate brush - unfairly*