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Old 05-04-2012, 09:54 AM #1
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Default Surely this can't be right? [Teen Stabbing]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/se...urder-sentence

Did anyone else watch that hour long real life Drama on BBC3 the other night? 'My Murder'.

Basically about a young lad in England who had everything going for him, he met a girl and fell in love with her - but she was cheating on her boyfriend with him, the boyfriend found out - and then the girl led the other guy to an ambush where her boyfriend and his gang brutally murdered the other guy in broad daylight using baseball bats and knives.

It's horrible - if you watch it, it all happened in 2008 and you see that the poor guy was turning his life around and going to college and you can see from photos in the credits that he was a happy guy who seemed like alot of fun.

Anyway in the credits it says that 'all of them' were charged for 'life.' in 2009.
But I just discovered the girl was charged with a Minimum of 10 Years, whilst the guy who stabbed him [6 Times] is only being charged 15 Years.

It was said that they stabbed him everywhere, but the stab in his liver is what killed him. Whilst he was beat constantly by baseball bats - in a cul de sac, and as they walked away he was left crying out for his Mother. It took him 10 hours to die.

It makes me sick, it's like - on that one day, the poor guy lost his life - and everything he could of achieved and done with it; and these bastards are only loosing 15 Years?

I don't get how a judge, can view that - as a normal, logical, justified decision or a right price to pay for taking a 16 Year old's life away from him?

And here's the show if anyone wants to watch.
[or just fast forward to 50:30 for the ending.]
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She didn't actually cheat on her boyfriend with him though did she? they just spoke to each other a lot
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:34 AM #3
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God, that's horrific.
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**** man. What surprises me the most is how people can actually do stuff like this and just walk away. I mean, it's one thing killing a kid but a whole different scenario ganging up on someone just mutilating them.

I know I couldn't do that to anyone, no matter what they've done to me.
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Yeah I watched this, dunno why they only got such a short amount of time, maybe something to do with their age?

Should be there for their whole life though, especially the girl and her boyfriend
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I remember reading about this when it happened, horrific case
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I saw this the other night. A really interesting but upsetting story.

It makes me so mad that the girl's bf decided he must seek revenge on the guy, when he was completely innocent. He should have been angry at 'his girl'. Reckless and very ignorant behaviour.

If the portrayal was accurate, the guy had so much to offer. A decent and well-educated lad. Such a sad loss.
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They won't even lose 15 years of their lives though Patrick. You can guarantee it will be about 6/7 years and it's a very small price to pay for the horrendous crime they committed.
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Just watched this thanks for the links Patrick.
Absolutely appalling and tragic. The girl was butters anyway (in real life), not worth the fuss.

The British justice system sucks. Life should mean life!! US have got it right. I still don't fully believe in capital punishment because that is also murder but in some cases I think boy..they deserve it or if they'd done that to a family member...

sad. watch who you talk to people. people are just getting crazier by the year
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I saw the programme too on Monday, horrific crime and beggars belief that the scum will be out at some point free while poor Shakilus' family will have that grief with them forever..

Samantha Joseph is pure evil!
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Yes, I watched this and found it heartbreaking I also watched a programme called 'Mugged' yesterday, that was quite upsetting also
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life sentences here are too short imo

they should actually last a lifetime like the name suggests
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