[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I'll use the Frankie Boyle example again. Should he have been allowed to get away with his ridicule of Harvey? Because Harvey himself is most likely unaware of what was said and not really "affected" should Boyle have been allowed to make the "jokes" he did and make that child the centre of attention for being laughed at? I don't think so.

I compare that kind of thing to Jeremy Kyle, he acts high and mighty that he's doing a "service" and helping people through the problems yet all the guests he has on the show are just there to be laughed at, hissed at, screamed at and just treated like crap.

I don't agree with what Frankie Boyle did to Harvey at all, and I don't think he should have gotten away with it. I do think a line needs to be drawn somewhere.

Obviously as I haven't actually seen this show yet it's hard to comment on whether or not it crosses that line but by the sounds of it, it is more taking the piss out of people reacting to the main character rather than he himself

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't agree with what Frankie Boyle did to Harvey at all, and I don't think he should have gotten away with it. I do think a line needs to be drawn somewhere.

Obviously as I haven't actually seen this show yet it's hard to comment on whether or not it crosses that line but by the sounds of it, it is more taking the piss out of people reacting to the main character rather than he himself

Agreed. That was my point, I don't agree with all the people saying comedy shouldn't have boundaries. When, really, everything has a line you shouldn't cross.

I don't know whether to watch the show or not though because Gervais in general doesn't make me laugh.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Agreed. That was my point, I don't agree with all the people saying comedy shouldn't have boundaries. When, really, everything has a line you shouldn't cross.

I don't know whether to watch the show or not though because Gervais in general doesn't make me laugh.

I quite like him but I'll definitely have to give it a watch out of curiosity now!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't agree with what Frankie Boyle did to Harvey at all, and I don't think he should have gotten away with it. I do think a line needs to be drawn somewhere.

Obviously as I haven't actually seen this show yet it's hard to comment on whether or not it crosses that line but by the sounds of it, it is more taking the piss out of people reacting to the main character rather than he himself

Then it's not free speech then isn't it? There's no half and half you either have the freedom of speech or you don't.

I couldn't give a **** about with Frankie Boyle or Ricky Gervais, I just feel that people who kick up such a fuss about such insignificant things are in desperate need of sorting out their priorities.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Then it's not free speech then isn't it? There's no half and half you either have the freedom of speech or you don't.

I couldn't give a **** about with Frankie Boyle or Ricky Gervais, I just feel that people who kick up such a fuss about such insignificant things are in desperate need of sorting out their priorities.

The line has to be drawn between making a joke that certain people can laugh with together and singling people out to be laughed AT. It's a fine line but very different.
And when it comes to that there most certainly needs to be boundaries.

When a disabled child is laughed at, and people say he "****s his mother" then I say ******* "free" speech.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

The line has to be drawn between making a joke that certain people can laugh with together and singling people out to be laughed AT. It's a fine line but very different.
And when it comes to that there most certainly needs to be boundaries.

When a disabled child is laughed at, and people say he "****s his mother" then I say ******* "free" speech.

You'd willingly give up your rights so that comedians can't make jokes that might offend someone?

Sorry but that's HILARIOUS, foolish but hilarious.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Then it's not free speech then isn't it? There's no half and half you either have the freedom of speech or you don't.

I couldn't give a **** about with Frankie Boyle or Ricky Gervais, I just feel that people who kick up such a fuss about such insignificant things are in desperate need of sorting out their priorities.

Well, the example Marsh gave about Harvey I think over steps a mark, it's become personal and taking the piss out of a disabled child personally is wrong and bang out of order imo. If that damages Frankie Boyles right to Free Speech then I couldn't care less to be quite honest, somethings are more important.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, the example Marsh gave about Harvey I think over steps a mark, it's become personal and taking the piss out of a disabled child personally is wrong and bang out of order imo. If that damages Frankie Boyles right to Free Speech then I couldn't care less to be quite honest, somethings are more important.

I didn't actually see the Frankie Boyle thing..or know exactly what was said..but it seems that it was personal..a specific child..and also the fact that it was a child..who is classed as 'vulnerable'..I mean children in general are vulnerable

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

I didn't actually see the Frankie Boyle thing..or know exactly what was said..but it seems that it was personal..a specific child..and also the fact that it was a child..who is classed as 'vulnerable'..I mean children in general are vulnerable

I didn't see it either but it was something along the lines of him ****ing his mother

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I didn't see it either but it was something along the lines of him ****ing his mother

Hmmmmm..not really a lot I can say to that..I don't like Frankie Boyle anyway

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

I didn't actually see the Frankie Boyle thing..or know exactly what was said..but it seems that it was personal..a specific child..and also the fact that it was a child..who is classed as 'vulnerable'..I mean children in general are vulnerable

The disabled are also classed as vulnerable, I thought you would know that ammi.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by kizzy

The disabled are also classed as vulnerable, I thought you would know that ammi.

..Please don't patronise me Kizzy..it's completely unnecessary...I think it's a good idea to allow disabled people to give their own views on whether Ricky Gervais' new show offends them or not..after it's been aired

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..Please don't patronise me Kizzy..it's completely unnecessary...I think it's a good idea to allow disabled people to give their own views on whether Ricky Gervais' new show offends them or not..after it's been aired

If you feel I did I apologise, you're right lets see after thurs.