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Old 08-04-2012, 11:36 PM #51
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It's a shame there's not more people like you in charge, Britain was at it's peak during the dark ages.
I know your being sarcastic but I wish it was the case, the country would be in a much better state now if it was the case.
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It's a shame there's not more people like you in charge, Britain was at it's peak during the dark ages.
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He Also watched Adult 18 rated saw Movies.


Feck All to do with that ITV1HD Soap.


That Kid was out of control
Private School is what got him into Evil.

I'm sorry, but PMSL that you felt the need to reiterate Coronation Street airs on ITV1 in HD in such a thread.
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I'm sorry, but PMSL that you felt the need to reiterate Coronation Street airs on ITV1 in HD in such a thread.
I was the same as you.
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Ditto that....haha
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I dont think people are born evil or not, but I think our genes may determine how easy it is for somebody to become evil.
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I watched a documentary on psychopaths that analised if it was possible to predict if we are predisposed to becoming one.
It seems that via neurological images of the brains of psychopaths follow a similar pattern....This pattern was found in one of the researchers too, however it was found that to 'trip' the switch there has to have been some trigger....An event that caused a change.
To me this seems the most plausible explanation.
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That's not even funny -_-
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Not heard that for years.

*doooo dooda doooda...*

People can be born genetically deficient in all manner of ways. any child able to do this should not be allowed back into society.

I've spent about 30 plus years watching serious Horrors, Vampire movies, sick and depraved movies of all sorts : but I somehow managed to get this far without smashing a hammer through anyone's skull.

I have thought about it thought....often.

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Not heard that for years.

*doooo dooda doooda...*

People can be born genetically deficient in all manner of ways. any child able to do this should not be allowed back into society.

I've spent about 30 plus years watching serious Horrors, Vampire movies, sick and depraved movies of all sorts : but I somehow managed to get this far without smashing a hammer through anyone's skull.

I have thought about it thought....often.
No, once the change has occured it was shown to be irreversible....
so rehabilitation is impossible.
To cause the change it may take more than watching a few hollywood blockbusters (sorry)
Mental and or physical abuse over a period of time however would imo, which is what I feel happened here.
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I've watched, played and been physically hurt in the past, when I say physically hurt I mean being bullied at school, yet I have never hurt anybody and would never want to either.
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I've watched, played and been physically hurt in the past, when I say physically hurt I mean being bullied at school, yet I have never hurt anybody and would never want to either.
Im not saying playground bullying is not hurtful, but I did mean something more deep seated.
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Im not saying playground bullying is not hurtful, but I did mean something more deep seated.
Well that's how alot of children start off as psychos, that's why I pointed it out, of course some children lash out at there parents if they are abusing them either sexually or physically.

It still doesn't make it right though, on the bully situation more than anything else.
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No one's saying it's "right". Murder in all forms is wrong. But there are circumstances where you can understand certain people who commit them. Whether they suffer from a severe mental breakdown or whatever.
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Thats right, I don't know if its maternal instinct or something but I cannot help but feel sorry for this child...It must take a lot of suppressed rage to manifest this way.
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Thats right, I don't know if its maternal instinct or something but I cannot help but feel sorry for this child...It must take a lot of suppressed rage to manifest this way.
He could just be a psycho that likes gore even more than I do.
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I don't normally believe that young people should be given up on, however as I read of the crimes committed on people and other smaller children by so called young people who may or may not have something wrong mentally with them to do such crimes,I think my patience has run out.

If he is found to have a mental problem that it is then impossible to say 100% that he would never commit such a horrific crime again then he should at the very least be kept away from society for the rest of his life.
If he is deemed not to have any mental health issues then locked away from society in prison is all that can be done with him but either way, he should not be re-introduced to society ever,in my opinion.

I am with JF and kazanne on this one,there comes a point where enough really is enough.
One thing is sure he will get to live his life somehow, albeit with heavy restrictions,that is something he has taken away and denied to someone else.
That is a fact that gets overlooked too easily nowadays,we have to take steps to stop people killing other people for little or no reason,no matter what age the murderer is.
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I don't normally believe that young people should be given up on, however as I read of the crimes committed on people and other smaller children by so called young people who may or may not have something wrong mentally with them to do such crimes,I think my patience has run out.

If he is found to have a mental problem that it is then impossible to say 100% that he would never commit such a horrific crime again then he should at the very least be kept away from society for the rest of his life.
If he is deemed not to have any mental health issues then locked away from society in prison is all that can be done with him but either way, he should not be re-introduced to society ever,in my opinion.

I am with JF and kazanne on this one,there comes a point where enough really is enough.
One thing is sure he will get to live his life somehow, albeit with heavy restrictions,that is something he has taken away and denied to someone else.
That is a fact that gets overlooked too easily nowadays,we have to take steps to stop people killing other people for little or no reason,no matter what age the murderer is.
Pretty much impossible unless we get a Minority Report type police force. There will always be Psychopaths and dangerous individuals, and things that go on behind closed doors that nobody ever predicts or even knows about.
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Pretty much impossible unless we get a Minority Report type police force. There will always be Psychopaths and dangerous individuals, and things that go on behind closed doors that nobody ever predicts or even knows about.
Sadly you are right in what you say, I agree with your statement.
It makes me all the more of the mind that in that case then punishments need to make it that such things committed by such individuals are never able to be committed again by them and the only way they really can be stopped is to get them away from the rest of society for good.
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Sadly you are right in what you say, I agree with your statement.
It makes me all the more of the mind that in that case then punishments need to make it that such things committed by such individuals are never able to be committed again by them and the only way they really can be stopped is to get them away from the rest of society for good.
Yep, I'm sure the cost to the tax payer is worth more than costing lives. There's been a number of cases where people have either escaped or been let out of Broadmoor and killed again.
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I just hope that he will have the right help and not just left to stew for 16 years . Or there will be one dangerous institutionalised middle aged man released.
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I just hope that he will have the right help and not just left to stew for 16 years . Or there will be one dangerous institutionalised middle aged man released.
Of course he'll get help, it's not the 40's
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Of course he'll get help, it's not the 40's
I didn't say it was....
I just hope they do a better job than with jamies killers.
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I didn't say it was....
I just hope they do a better job than with jamies killers.
Well time will only tell
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