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09-05-2012, 04:51 PM | #26 | ||
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09-05-2012, 05:12 PM | #27 | |||
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Plus there's still inequality about the whole thing. It's all very nice to say that homosexuals have equal rights now but they still have to say "oh we're not married, we're just under a civil union". There's just no reason for there not to be gay marriage. Anyone who quotes the Bible is effectively drawing argument from the same book that allows you to sell your daughter, kill people for wearing two different fabrics and damn anyone for working on a Sunday. Quote:
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09-05-2012, 05:21 PM | #28 | ||
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Its essentially the same thing but with a different name. So while I do think its daft for gay people to 'technically' not be able to be married...I also think its a bit daft to get wound up about not being able to get married in the traditional sense. And I definitely dont agree with some peoples ideas about forcing churches to allow gay marriages to happen. We have to respect their views (however ignorant and bigoted they are) and if their views are that being gay is a sin...then its wrong to force church folk to do something they disagree with. Is a civil partnership just going to a registry office? Or is that classed as marriage too? 'Anyone who quotes the Bible is effectively drawing argument from the same book that allows you to sell your daughter, kill people for wearing two different fabrics and damn anyone for working on a Sunday.; at this bit though. How true this is
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09-05-2012, 05:24 PM | #29 | |||
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Working backwards!
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09-05-2012, 05:25 PM | #30 | |||
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What disgusting, backward cunts they are
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09-05-2012, 05:26 PM | #31 | |||
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Obama's view has always been a bit shakey on this topic, he used to oppose it but recently said he's "warming" to it. Don't know if he's given a official statement yet.
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09-05-2012, 05:26 PM | #32 | |||
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09-05-2012, 05:30 PM | #33 | ||
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It would be like me chosing a religion that hates women, thinks its unnatural to be a woman, and looks down on me for having a vagina Each to their own though. Do you go to church and that too?
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09-05-2012, 05:36 PM | #34 | |||
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I used to go to Church though. Technically I should've been confirmed at 15, but by then I was fairly sure of sexuality and I wasn't going to enter into a lifelong commitment to a Church that thinks I'm morally wrong.
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09-05-2012, 05:37 PM | #35 | |||
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Reading that it would appear the only difference is a religious one.
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09-05-2012, 05:38 PM | #36 | ||
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I grew up in a christian family, was made to go to sunday school and that...knew from a very young age that it wasnt for me. Sunday school teachers must have hated me because I was a cocky little **** who kept asking questions they couldnt answer infront of everyone (main one being dinosaurs...I think I brought that up like every other week)
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09-05-2012, 05:40 PM | #37 | ||
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09-05-2012, 05:41 PM | #38 | ||
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Thats a great point actually. I'm pretty damn sure its not ALL churches or ALL christians who oppose gay marriage...I'm sure a lot are openminded enough to realise that what goes on in another persons bedroom is absolutely ******* all to do with anyone else.
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09-05-2012, 05:42 PM | #39 | ||
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Most religions tbh.
Part of the reason I have no religion
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09-05-2012, 05:43 PM | #40 | |||
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I never went to Sunday school, but I went to a Catholic primary though. My Nan used to look after me when I was little and she'd take me to all these churches and stuff. It was dull. She used to bring me to this prayer group thing sometimes where these people would just sit there praying the rosary over and over for like half an hour. It was boring as ****.
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09-05-2012, 05:48 PM | #41 | ||
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The main reason I hate churches (and yes I do hate them) is because of how they treat my grandma.
She used to go every sunday...and always put £50 in the collection. And £50 a week is a hell of a lot for a 70 year old living only on their pension. Anyway, she got ill and went downhill really quickly so obviously had to stop going to church. I was living with her at the time. About a month after she stopped going, a letter came through the door...was just a plain white envelope and I used to open my grans post to get rid of junk mail and that, and make sure her bills were paid, so I opened it. Was a very short letter from her church. Said something along the lines of 'we have been missing you at church recently, hope everything is alright' and in with it was a collections envelope. I was ****ing fuming that they were still wanting cash off her, I didnt even tell her because I knew she was soft enough to give them it, I just put it in the bin. The week after that another collections envelope came with a note saying 'get well soon'. again, went in the bin. That was the last of them, I think they got the hint. But for them to do stuff like that...just proves they are only out for money.
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09-05-2012, 05:49 PM | #42 | ||
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(And sorry for going a bit offtopic too )
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09-05-2012, 06:00 PM | #43 | |||
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09-05-2012, 06:08 PM | #44 | |||
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Imo the church and christians hide behind their arcaic traditions of 'marriage is between a man and a woman for the procreation of children' to try and justify their hypocracy and bigotry. There are many male/female 'christian' marriages which neither procreate any children or they end in divorce..oh and there's many other things some do which go against their religion..but it's not addressed as to whether they should be allowed a christian ceremony..it's ok because they're not gay..
..I was brought up in the Catholic faith too but this just typifies everything I loathe about christianity..I'd have more respect for them if they just turned round and said 'we don't like gay people'...they're just hypocrites who bend the rules to suit themselves.. I saw some of the christians in North Carolina who were supporting the ban..with their banners and sloganed Tshirts..and a lot of them were very young...early twenties maybe...I find it disturbing that these young people are being brought up with this bigotry instilled into them... ...unbelievable that it's 2012 |
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09-05-2012, 06:11 PM | #45 | ||
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Its a lot more common to be gay (or be 'out'...I'm sure the amount of homosexuals were alway the same) these days than it was say...30-40 years ago, so younger people are more likely to accept it.
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09-05-2012, 06:23 PM | #46 | |||
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The one thing I find particularly ridiculous about Christian Churches rejecting gay marriage is the shaky ground their supporting evidence for such rejection is based on. Its been proved multiple times that the passages where the Bible declares homosexuality an "abomination" etc aren't to be taken literally. I think the Bible also says that wearing cotton is an "abomination"? Its ridiculous!
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09-05-2012, 06:29 PM | #47 | |||
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..I find it disturbing that so many from childhood are still indoctrinated with such bigoted beliefs |
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09-05-2012, 06:33 PM | #48 | |||
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Well this is Bible Belt America we're talking about. Its to be expected tbh.
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09-05-2012, 06:34 PM | #49 | |||
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California New York Iowa And a bunch of NE states are the only ones that allow it. Though not a single one was by a public vote but instead thru each state's own congress or supreme court.
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09-05-2012, 06:36 PM | #50 | |||
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..yes you're right it is to be expected in Bible Belt America...but I've witnessed it first hand here too..the bigotry instilled from a very young age
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