[Niall]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

How would that stop them? They could just have sex with some randomer while the social worker wasnt there...

Well if it were a woman it'd be easy to see if she was pregnant or not and had violated her ban. She's start showing eventually.

If its a man? Well I'm stumped.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niall

Well if it were a woman it'd be easy to see if she was pregnant or not and had violated her ban. She's start showing eventually.

If its a man? Well I'm stumped.

So what would be done if they had 'violated the ban'?

I thought this was a way to stop them conceiving in the first place?

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

So what would be done if they had 'violated the ban'?

I thought this was a way to stop them conceiving in the first place?

Allow her to carry the pregnancy to term, remove the child, and then place it in state care. Simple.

And yeah I guess, but you can't do that in everyday life and I know that but its the best - and most humane - alternative.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niall

Allow her to carry the pregnancy to term, remove the child, and then place it in state care. Simple.

Well this is what (technically) happens now. And I think thats a totally flawed system too. The social services dont seen to give a stuff about the actual kids (as already mentioned, baby p was mostly the failing of the social) and from what I have heard from people who grew up in state care...its not a life.

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well this is what (technically) happens now. And I think thats a totally flawed system too. The social services dont seen to give a stuff about the actual kids (as already mentioned, baby p was mostly the failing of the social) and from what I have heard from people who grew up in state care...its not a life.

Very true, but I'd rather that to happen then the government performing operations on people against their will.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niall

Very true, but I'd rather that to happen then the government performing operations on people against their will.

Meh. I would rather we ensured as many children as possible get a good life without fear of violence or anything...and **** the rights of the people who abuse them.

But each to their own.