[Mystic Mock]

I still can't get over them Muslim girls getting away with beating the girl up because they was drunk,more like it was because they didn't want to be seen as racist and being drunk doesn't mean you are posessed or something lol.

That's why these racist jokes on Twitter don't bother me as much as cases like the one that's just been mentioned.

[Kizzy]

Agreed there mr luvaluva....perfect sense.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

I still can't get over them Muslim girls getting away with beating the girl up because they was drunk,more like it was because they didn't want to be seen as racist and being drunk doesn't mean you are posessed or something lol.

That's why these racist jokes on Twitter don't bother me as much as cases like the one that's just been mentioned.

Actually you just jogged my memory of that...but muslims don't drink do they... and lots of women without a chaperone?....Hmmmm ...yes odd!

[Mrluvaluva]

It's set a precedent here hopefully.

And then the freaks come out - tweet to Stan Collymore:

Badluck Schleprock ‏ @dirtyvodkaman
@StanCollymore lol you ****** ******, good thing it's not a hate crime over here (yet) to call you the mongrel that you are. cry about it!

For every one prosecuted, there will be many more.

take this guy

[Mystic Mock]

just bullied a few homo kids... feels good man

heil hitler

Wtf?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

It's set a precedent here hopefully.

And then the freaks come out - tweet to Stan Collymore:

Badluck Schleprock ‏ @dirtyvodkaman
@StanCollymore lol you ****** ******, good thing it's not a hate crime over here (yet) to call you the mongrel that you are. cry about it!

For every one prosecuted, there will be many more.

take this guy

Im assuming this person thinks that Collymore is a hypocrite due to his abuse...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/110009.stm

[Mrluvaluva]

It's not just Stan. He is targetting many just for the sake of it if you look at his page, because of the story. It's like a red rag to a bull for some.

[Kizzy]

Ah well, he is just another fool talking rubbish though... what can you do?...they can say what they like there apparently.

[Mrluvaluva]

That's my point. He can get away for it for the moment, sitting in front of his screen in his warm and safe environment. Tomorrow could be another day though, and his whole world could change. Just like it did for Liam Stacey...

[Mrluvaluva]

Liam Stacey could be freed tomorrow...

A student jailed for mocking footballer Fabrice Muamba on Twitter after he suffered a cardiac arrest could be released in the next 24 hours.

Liam Stacey, 21, was jailed for 56 days on Tuesday after he admitting inciting racial hatred.

He is to appeal against his sentence tomorrow (Friday), and if successful could be freed straight away.


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[Kizzy]

He is going to get some right stick, I actually feel a bit sorry for him tbh

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

A different view from The Telegraph:

"...people think of Twitter as a sort of extended pub conversation, or private chatroom, but in theory it could be seen by millions of people

I definitely think this is the case, people are saying he wouldn't be able to go out and start ranting racist crap on the street with the intention of inciting hatred, but surely we are able to see the difference between that and drunken tweets on his own twitter page. It is exactly the sort of thing he'd probably say down the pub and there people would likely just tell him to shut up, but when posing this sort of things on twitter people forget how easily seen and accessible they are

[Shaun]

The thing is trolls and shock-jocks use this kind of language all the time and I find it really difficult (and basically the joke's old now, so tedious, too) to tell the difference between someone trying to provoke a reaction and someone genuinely racist.

Either way I don't particularly mind them getting punished. The internet is full of too many morons. Twitter in particular. But then I've seen few wise statements made in under 140 characters.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

What happened to free speech?

Hate Speech is a criminal offense.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

There are people from the UK disagreeing with the guys arrest as well, it's not just an American idea it seems and I would guess that alot of Americans would agree with his arrest also, I'm pretty sure all of you don't think the same way.

99% of Americans would not agree with someone being arrested for Speech. That's just a given in America. The only thing that's deemed a federal crime, is making a comment about assassinating the President.

I don't like anyone dictating to me what I can and can't say, especially government. We've seen where this leads throughout history, but I digress. If Brits want to live this lifestyle, so be it.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

let one spread hatred and others will follow,
how long before these low lifes take it further than just talking!

Open a history book, and research the Soviet Union.

Also research "Goodwin's Law". And while we at it, get a spell checker. That is all.

[Mrluvaluva]

A student has lost his appeal after being sent to jail for posting racially offensive comments on Twitter about footballer Fabrice Muamba.

Swansea University student Liam Stacey, 21, from Pontypridd, was sentenced to 56 days on Tuesday.

A High Court judge in Swansea has now dismissed the appeal against sentence.

On Friday, Mr Justice Wyn Williams told Stacey he rejected an argument that he had already been punished enough.

He said the Swansea University biology student had admitted an offence of racist intent.

"He was intending to say what he said and was intending to produce the effect that he did," said the judge.

Stacey was sentenced at Swansea Magistrates' Court on Tuesday after admitting inciting racial hatred over remarks about the Bolton Wanderers player, who collapsed during a cup tie against Tottenham Hotspur.

Mr Justice Wyn Williams told Stacey: "There can be no avoiding the conclusion that your offence was committed in the context of a grave illness that had afflicted Fabrice Muamba.

"It was immediately apparent that he was gravely ill and while he was lying prostrate on the pitch you posted comments that were extremely racist couched in terms that can only be described as extremely offensive.

"What was written was capable of being read by any user of Twitter and these messages provoked a very strong response.

"You received responses which were extremely critical but you did not desist - instead you posted eight messages which were extremely abusive and insulting.

"You later realised the enormity of your behaviour and tried to apologise.

"But you deserve to be punished for your actions. It can't be argued that a term of 56 days is too long for this offence.

"By pleading guilty you admitted a racist intent to your comments."

Paul Hobson, defending Stacey, told the appeal hearing: "This should not define him, but it will leave a blot upon him forever.

"He has already had a short, sharp, shock, his life has changed very swiftly in just a fortnight.

"He has been made an example of and surely this will do enough to prevent others from acting in a similar way.

"Rarely will the court deal with an individual who has attracted as much stigma as this defendant - this has devastated him and his family and his friends."


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[Mrluvaluva]

Has this become a trend?

https://twitter.com/#!/ninjathunder/...054464/photo/1

Stan Collymore ‏ @StanCollymore Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Staffordshire Police have contacted me to see if I want to report the racist tweets from earlier.

I just don't understand the need?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

Has this become a trend?

https://twitter.com/#!/ninjathunder/...054464/photo/1

Stan Collymore ‏ @StanCollymore Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Staffordshire Police have contacted me to see if I want to report the racist tweets from earlier.

I just don't understand the need?

I don't 'get' twitter.....who do you twit twoo?....lol
Seriously though it just seems so impersonal...Moreso than forums and FB....

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by letmein

99% of Americans would not agree with someone being arrested for Speech. That's just a given in America. The only thing that's deemed a federal crime, is making a comment about assassinating the President.

I don't like anyone dictating to me what I can and can't say, especially government. We've seen where this leads throughout history, but I digress. If Brits want to live this lifestyle, so be it.

99% eh? I would love to see your proof of that

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah there is a difference between free speech and pure hatred. Racism should not be tolerated and passing it off as free speech is not acceptable imo, I'm glad they've arrested that guy if they were as bad as you say.

Newsflash: the right to free speech is there to protect offensive speech. Not polite speech. Offensive speech. Politically correct and popular speech do not need protection.

And Britain continues to circle the toilet bowl. Round round you go and I would be tempted to laugh except I know the US is not far behind you.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Newsflash: the right to free speech is there to protect offensive speech. Not polite speech. Offensive speech. Politically correct and popular speech do not need protection.

And Britain continues to circle the toilet bowl. Round round you go and I would be tempted to laugh except I know the US is not far behind you.

I'm not British

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Newsflash: the right to free speech is there to protect offensive speech. Not polite speech. Offensive speech. Politically correct and popular speech do not need protection.

And Britain continues to circle the toilet bowl. Round round you go and I would be tempted to laugh except I know the US is not far behind you.

But I am British... and I find you, as usual, offensive.

[Mrluvaluva]

A student jailed after making racist remarks on Twitter about footballer Fabrice Muamba has apologised and says he has paid a huge price.

Liam Stacey told BBC Wales' Week in Week Out programme how the comments - "just drunken stupidity" - turned him into a national hate figure.

Stacey, from Pontypridd, was given a 56-day prison term for a racially aggravated public order offence.

Muamba, 24, suffered a cardiac arrest on the pitch in March.

He recovered in time to attend the return fixture at the Reebok Stadium on 3 May.

Stacey told the programme, which is broadcast on Tuesday on BBC One Wales, he did not know why he made the remarks on Twitter, adding that it was a "stupid, massive, massive mistake and I've paid a big price for it".

"What I struggle to get my head around was the week or two before I was just a normal kid getting on with my work in university, getting on with life, playing rugby with all my mates, then a week or two later I was just going to prison, everything had been turned upside down," he said.

The programme also went undercover to expose how so-called internet trolls - people who carry out anonymous online hate campaigns - target the most vulnerable.

It heard from the mothers of murder victims Rebecca Aylward from Bridgend, and Kirsty Wilkinson from Swansea,whose online memorial sites were attacked by trolls.

Kirsty's mother Catherine Broomfield said: "It's just beyond belief, it just hurts. I've already got a big hole in my heart as it is and these people just make the hole deeper."

One troll told the programme attacking others made him feel better.

Week In Week Out also enlisted the help of an unnamed internet expert to set a trap for the trolls who went out of their way to shock, offend and upset vulnerable people.

Nobody has been prosecuted for making comments about Rebecca Aylward or Kirsty Wilkinson.

However, the head of the Crown Prosecution Service for Wales said reported online crimes are treated exactly the same as offences committed "in the real world".

Jim Brisbane, chief prosecutor for the Crown Prosecution Service in Wales, said the vast majority of the population enjoyed social media and used it responsibly.

He added: "But there's now an opportunity to make it clear for those who overstep the mark and abuse the privilege of being able to communicate in such a wide way, that the law that applies to other settings and other forms of communication can apply equally to what they're doing, and if that is not recognised then there may be consequences."

Superintendent Joe Ruddy from South Wales Police led the investigation into Stacey's case.

He said: "We in South Wales Police have seen over 100% increase in the number of social networking type occurrences in the last two years and that's probably just tip of the iceberg in what's going on out there."

While Fabrice Muamba continues to recover, Stacey's future remains uncertain.

Swansea University suspended him pending the conclusion of disciplinary proceedings.

On Tuesday, it said Stacey would remain suspended for the remainder of this academic year and is not allowed to return to campus.

But he will be given the opportunity to sit his final exams as an external candidate next year at another venue and, if successful, to graduate in absentia.

He will remain excluded from the campus, the university said.

"We take the actions of this student very seriously, which is why he is no longer part of our campus community," it said in a statement.

"We are mindful that he has been given a prison sentence, and therefore has already paid a price for his actions.

"He has expressed genuine remorse and we are satisfied that he understands that his behaviour was unacceptable, and damaging to the university."


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