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http://www.burnleyexpress.net/news/l...girl-1-4578655
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Animals! 3 years isn't enough for them!
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wait, so they arn't arab or muslim? so where are the "white christian british" abusing a child headlines? funny how ethnicity and religion only seem to be in the headline when it's an arab or muslim... hmmmm
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Don't be afraid to be weak. Last edited by lostalex; 24-05-2012 at 10:06 AM. |
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This was more of a one-off by some dickheads who deserved to be banged up. And a question... Where the hell were the parents of the "drunk fourteen year old"? |
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Not to take away from what they did, but why was a 14 year old girl even drunk in the first place? This probably sounds really harsh but she deserved some consequences for breaking the law, obviously not consequences like this but I would hope she never gets drunk again until she's legally allowed to after having this unfortunate, horrible experience happen to her. The guys sound like opportunists, I'm glad they were punished accordingly.
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I'd find it difficult to categorically say that any drunk 14 year old having sex is 'rape'... it's not even statutory since they weren't 18.
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if someone is that drunk, then they cannot consent, especially a 14 y/o child. if this was a 14 y/o child that was drunk signing a contract that said, "i hereby entitle you to all of my money" would that contract be legally recognized in a court of law? NO. why? because she's a drunk 14 y/o child! so if they cannot even consent to give up money, how can they consent to anything else? This is absolutely rape.
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Don't be afraid to be weak. Last edited by lostalex; 24-05-2012 at 12:46 PM. |
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I wasn't ever drunk at 14. And even as an adult I can honestly say I have never been so drunk that I haven't known what I'm doing and frankly, I worry about women who put themselves in that situation. Last edited by Livia; 24-05-2012 at 01:21 PM. |
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It's still rape. She's only 14!
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I'd say quite a lot of teenagers start drinking at about this age, and they're obviously gonna be less aware of their limits at that age and not really realise how drunk they're getting. Her being drunk isn't an excuse for sexually abusing her when she's unconscious
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shouldn't the question be "were yu ever raped as a 14 y/o?"
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women put themselves in what situation? why should any woman expect to be RAPED just because she drank too much??
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Urgh it makes me sick to think of the self righteous idealists who get off on these stories sitting astride their tall horses.
There but forthe grace of god and all that....
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the apologists for rapists are what make me sick.
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I didn't mean putting themselves in the situation of being raped. I mean I worry about the mindset of women who drink so much they don't know where they are or what they're doing... adult women. A fourteen year old is going to be even less able to make good judgements under the influence of alcohol. Of course that doesn't mean I think she deserved to be raped. Not at all. But at fourteen years old I think her parents have to bear some of the responsibility for allowing their child to be placed in danger in this way.
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This is rape. There's no excuse for it.
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I used to drink at 14. I dont think its fair to blame the parents for this tbh...short of actually nailing my windows shut (which would probably be illegal or something) there was nothing they could do to keep me in the house during that very rough period of my life. I went totally off the rails in my teens for private reasons that I wont say on here. My parents desperately tried to control my behaviour but if they grounded me I would just climb out a window, or go out straight from school...if they tried picking me up from school to avoid me going AWOL I would skip the last lesson to avoid them...etc etc
Parents cant always control what their teens do. Luckily I got the help I needed quite quickly and was back to normal after a few months. But during those months, nothing my parents did would have made any difference to my behaviour. Last edited by Vicky.; 24-05-2012 at 01:33 PM. |
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I did grow up in a rural Oxfordshire village, where there wasn't a lot else to do on the weekends. I'd say your experience of self-control, is something that most teenagers have never had. |
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you cant blame the parents the girl could of said im just going to a mates house
its like the parents in dunblane they took their kids school how did know a man was going to get in and shoot them. |
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No, because I was asking Zee a specific question about his post, where he'd said (I'm paraphrasing) that "what on earth was a 14 year old doing drinking?".
My post had nothing whatsoever to do with the rape, which I don't think anyone is defending, anyway. |
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