[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Were you never drunk as a 14 year old?

I wasn't ever drunk at 14. And even as an adult I can honestly say I have never been so drunk that I haven't known what I'm doing and frankly, I worry about women who put themselves in that situation.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

I wasn't ever drunk at 14. And even as an adult I can honestly say I have never been so drunk that I haven't known what I'm doing and frankly, I worry about women who put themselves in that situation.

women put themselves in what situation? why should any woman expect to be RAPED just because she drank too much??

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

women put themselves in what situation? why should any woman expect to be RAPED just because she drank too much??

I didn't mean putting themselves in the situation of being raped. I mean I worry about the mindset of women who drink so much they don't know where they are or what they're doing... adult women. A fourteen year old is going to be even less able to make good judgements under the influence of alcohol. Of course that doesn't mean I think she deserved to be raped. Not at all. But at fourteen years old I think her parents have to bear some of the responsibility for allowing their child to be placed in danger in this way.

Originally Posted by Livia

I wasn't ever drunk at 14. And even as an adult I can honestly say I have never been so drunk that I haven't known what I'm doing and frankly, I worry about women who put themselves in that situation.

Fair enough, but my group of friends at that age used to go to the park and get drunk every weekend, and there were lots of girls involved. I'm not really a drinker at all these days, but that's because I have nightmarish hangovers, but back in those days we were all practically passing out drunk.

I did grow up in a rural Oxfordshire village, where there wasn't a lot else to do on the weekends.

I'd say your experience of self-control, is something that most teenagers have never had.