[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I just think it's got to start somewhere... the restraint... the accepting of consequences. This country has a shameful image the world over of drunkeness. Any town centre on a Saturday night paints a vivid picture of what we've become - boys fighting and vomiting, girls laying in the road or stumbling along drunkenly, it's horrible, and it doesn't really happen in other countries. Other places seem to have developed a healthy attitude to alcohol, but here, we have to drink until we're incoherent. A little off topic now, I think... but whatever, however drunk this girl was, she certainly didn't deserve what happened to her.

Oh yeah I definitely agree with this.

You know, I worked in greece a few years back...where 14 year olds are allowed to drink. Yet I never once saw a drunk 14 year old...where as here, I only have to go to my local shop on a friday night to have groups of them falling about and asking me to go in the shop and get them more cheap cider :S

Even as adults, I dont see the need in getting blind drunk where you pass out and cant remember a thing the next day, I like a drink, but I know when I have had enough, and I stop. Shame others dont seem to be able to do that too.