[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

When you think of C4 BB7 - BB8 - BB9 - BB10 for example, the changes were massive.

Weren't they the years that audiences dropped off dramatically ?

BIG BROTHER 1 (2000): 4.5m
BIG BROTHER 2 (2001): 4.5m
BIG BROTHER 3 (2002): 5.8m
BIG BROTHER 4 (2003): 4.6m
BIG BROTHER 5 (2004): 5.1m
BIG BROTHER 6 (2005): 4.6m
BIG BROTHER 7 (2006): 4.7m
BIG BROTHER 8 (2007): 3.9m
BIG BROTHER 9 (2008): 3.6m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 10 (2009): 2.5m [inc. +1]

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Omah

Weren't they the years that audiences dropped off dramatically ?

BIG BROTHER 1 (2000): 4.5m
BIG BROTHER 2 (2001): 4.5m
BIG BROTHER 3 (2002): 5.8m
BIG BROTHER 4 (2003): 4.6m
BIG BROTHER 5 (2004): 5.1m
BIG BROTHER 6 (2005): 4.6m
BIG BROTHER 7 (2006): 4.7m
BIG BROTHER 8 (2007): 3.9m
BIG BROTHER 9 (2008): 3.6m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 10 (2009): 2.5m [inc. +1]

No.

BB7 was one of the most popular to date.

Audiences dropped in BB8 and thats common knowledge.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

No.

BB7 was one of the most popular to date.

Audiences dropped in BB8 and thats common knowledge.

From 4.7 in BB7 to 2.5 in BB10 is a drop .....

BB3 at 5.8 was the peak, BB5 at 5.1 comes second, then it's all downhill ..... and that's a fact.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Omah

From 4.7 in BB7 to 2.5 in BB10 is a drop .....

BB3 at 5.8 was the peak, BB5 at 5.1 comes second, then it's all downhill ..... and that's a fact.

But whats your point?

We are talking about the design of the house.

Noone even mentioned ratings?

Yes you are stating facts but facts that are just out of place in this thread

[Colbert-Bump]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

No.
Audiences dropped in BB8 and thats common knowledge.

Having a house full of women in the first week was a massive mistake & the series never recovered.

[BBDodge]

Originally Posted by Colbert-Bump

Having a house full of women in the first week was a massive mistake & the series never recovered.

BB8 was the first series after Jade/Shilpa and the first series to suffer from Channel 4 compliance (the immediate expulsion of Emily at 4 in the morning being the first obvious manifestation of it).

With little live feed BB now is even more compliant. The voyeuristic element (which is the main point of the show) has been diminished.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Colbert-Bump

Having a house full of women in the first week was a massive mistake & the series never recovered.

The show never really recovered after RacismGate

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Omah

Weren't they the years that audiences dropped off dramatically ?

BIG BROTHER 1 (2000): 4.5m
BIG BROTHER 2 (2001): 4.5m
BIG BROTHER 3 (2002): 5.8m
BIG BROTHER 4 (2003): 4.6m
BIG BROTHER 5 (2004): 5.1m
BIG BROTHER 6 (2005): 4.6m
BIG BROTHER 7 (2006): 4.7m
BIG BROTHER 8 (2007): 3.9m
BIG BROTHER 9 (2008): 3.6m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 10 (2009): 2.5m [inc. +1]

Jordan was talking about massive changes in house design/structure, what the hell have the ratings got to do with it?

[Omah]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

But whats your point?

We are talking about the design of the house.

Noone even mentioned ratings?

Yes you are stating facts but facts that are just out of place in this thread

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Jordan was talking about massive changes in house design/structure, what the hell have the ratings got to do with it?

The so-called "massive changes" coincided with the decline in popularity of the series.

IIRC, Markus Blee was responsible for house design up BB5, after which it was taken over by Patrick Watson .....

[Sam:)]

Originally Posted by Omah

The so-called "massive changes" coincided with the decline in popularity of the series.

IIRC, Markus Blee was responsible for house design up BB5, after which it was taken over by Patrick Watson .....

Marcus Blee designed the BB11 house?

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Omah

The so-called "massive changes" coincided with the decline in popularity of the series.

IIRC, Markus Blee was responsible for house design up BB5, after which it was taken over by Patrick Watson .....

What are you going on about?

If we're judging how much the house is revamped by the amount of ratings the show gets why is this one still almost identical?

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

What are you going on about?

If we're judging how much the house is revamped by the amount of ratings the show gets why is this one still almost identical?

Who's judging ?

Who mentioned ratings?

Not me .....

I merely pointed out that the period of "massive changes" (sic) to the house coincided with a decline in size of the show's audience - what you infer from that is up to you.

For me, the design of the BB6 and BB7 houses marked a decline in production standards which coincided with radical changes to the format of the show instigated by the promotions of the dreadful Phil Edgar-Jones to Creative Director of the Endemol series in January 2006 and the awful Sharon Powers (from C4) to Executive Producer soon after.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Omah

Who's judging ?

Who mentioned ratings?

Not me .....

I merely pointed out that the period of "massive changes" (sic) to the house coincided with a decline in size of the show's audience - what you infer from that is up to you.

For me, the design of the BB6 and BB7 houses marked a decline in production standards which coincided with radical changes to the format of the show instigated by the promotions of the dreadful Phil Edgar-Jones to Creative Director of the Endemol series in January 2006 and the awful Sharon Powers (from C4) to Executive Producer soon after.

Think you're looking into it too much.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Think you're looking into it too much.

Think you're not looking into it enough.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Omah

The so-called "massive changes" coincided with the decline in popularity of the series.

IIRC, Markus Blee was responsible for house design up BB5, after which it was taken over by Patrick Watson .....

Again... the house structure has bugger all to do with the ratings. You are the one that brought ratings into it. Re-read the thread, everyone's discussing house design and structure. You've got the wrong end of the stick. Moving on...

[Omah]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Again... the house structure has bugger all to do with the ratings.

Again - I never mentioned "ratings" .....

The house structure has, of course, always been a fundamental part of the production team's "creative" toolkit and has, from the start determined much of the HMs behaviour and the nature of the "season's" dynamics .....

[Omah]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

You are the one that brought ratings into it.

I never mentioned "ratings" .....

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Omah

I never mentioned "ratings" .....

You posted the average audience rating for each series. Nobody else.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

You posted the average audience rating for each series. Nobody else.

rat·ing/ˈrātiNG/

Noun:

1.A classification or ranking of someone or something based on a comparative assessment of their quality, standard, or performance.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Omah

I never mentioned "ratings" .....

decline in size of the show's audience

Is that not refering to ratings?

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Is that not refering to ratings?

(Program) Ratings are comparative amongst channels, a single program's audience capture tendency cannot be "rated" (compared) - a program could be losing an audience but going up in the ratings if it were rescheduled .....