[rinkydinkpanther]

so too combine the words of deana with lauren, all men are cheats and all young men are liars, they wont tell me what to do, then we go to shiv and ash pointing and laughing at adam exercise because hes overweight.....then imagine a man had said these things?

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Not all men are cheaters. There are plenty of nice men out there.

Yes, the ugly ones

[rinkydinkpanther]

Originally Posted by pio5ukuk

In her opinion guys in her opinion

its a bigoted opinion, if said about women, or gays or black people, it would have made a storm and been called sexist, racist to label all groups of those people the same?

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by rinkydinkpanther

so too combine the words of deana with lauren, all men are cheats and all young men are liars, they wont tell me what to do, then we go to shiv and ash pointing and laughing at adam exercise because hes overweight.....then imagine a man had said these things?

Men say worst things when they are with their blokes

[rinkydinkpanther]

Originally Posted by Yayita

Yes, the ugly ones

not as ugly as your personality

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by rinkydinkpanther

yeah yet more male hate ignored by the producers and presenters, the show is digustingly misandrist in its hatred of men, she also said last night no man will ever control me, nobody wants to love? all Ive ever seen in my life is either ahealthy balanced relationship or one where the woman controls the man, i have NEVER witnessed any relationship where the man tries to control the woman, and no its not just this era, my grandparents , my great grandparents, my uncles and aunties and great uncles and aunties, everyone of that had women controlling most matters, its a total myth men control women in the uk

Don't be ridiculous, there are controlling men and there are controlling women, it's not a gender thing, it's a personality thing, we are all individuals. You come on here complaining about sexism towards men and then spout off this sexist drivel towards women in the same breath which completely invalidates your points .

[rinkydinkpanther]

Originally Posted by Yayita

Men say worst things when they are with their blokes

yet another generalized bigotted drivel....ash mocked lukes willy in front of eveyone not to mention national tv...the men I know NEVER discuss sex with their partner, whereas the women i know the majority do discuss and mock these intimate moments...so you lie.

[rinkydinkpanther]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Don't be ridiculous, there are controlling men and there are controlling women, it's not a gender thing, it's a personality thing, we are all individuals. You come on here complaining about sexism towards men and then spout off this sexist drivel towards women in the same breath which completely invalidates your points .

wrong. I am NOT GENERALIZING, I AM GIVING YOU SPECIFIC EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE I HAVE KNOWN FOR MUCH OF MY LIFE, YOU ARE GENERALIZING THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE THIS OR THAT AS IS DEANA AND SOME WOMEN POSTERS HERE WHO SAYS ALL MEN TALK WORSE ABOUT WOMEN THAN THE OTHER WAY AROUND....i am not generalizing here , you are

[Donovan.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Exactly. I don't get why Deana thinks only men cheat. It doesn't make sense!

Not saying that she doesn't think that but she's not going to ****** a women so she doesn't have to worry if women cheat.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by rinkydinkpanther

wrong. I am NOT GENERALIZING, I AM GIVING YOU SPECIFIC EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE I HAVE KNOWN FOR MUCH OF MY LIFE, YOU ARE GENERALIZING THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE THIS OR THAT AS IS DEANA AND SOME WOMEN POSTERS HERE WHO SAYS ALL MEN TALK WORSE ABOUT WOMEN THAN THE OTHER WAY AROUND....i am not generalizing here , you are

Please stop posting in caps like that.

When have I generalised based on sex, please tell me?

[Shaun]

this couldn't possibly be an exaggerated claim for a reality TV videotape based on personal bad experiences, it must be a calculated judgment of an entire gender

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

this couldn't possibly be an exaggerated claim for a reality TV videotape based on personal bad experiences, it must be a calculated judgment of an entire gender

Exxxxxxxxxactly, most of their VTs are cringeworthy and over exaggerated, remember Aarons from last year?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by kistar

Also next time some one has a problem with Caoline coming from a financially gifted life they should remind themselves that Princess Deana has actual servants .

It's common to have servants in India.

[WozMan]

Lets just say RinkyDink has been badly hurt by women and Deana has been badly hurt by men.

Everyone generalises. It's actually a necessary part of living. Otherwise we would have to be constantly relearning everything.

On a point of BB being man-hating. Adam came out of the argument with Shiv looking WAY better than her. Also Conor had to threaten rape and battery on Deana to get a warning. Caroline had to compare Adam to an animal to get one. Personally I'd rather be called a slug etc than have someone twice my size threaten to rape me and beat me into unconsciousness.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by rinkydinkpanther

yet another generalized bigotted drivel....ash mocked lukes willy in front of eveyone not to mention national tv...the men I know NEVER discuss sex with their partner, whereas the women i know the majority do discuss and mock these intimate moments...so you lie.

do you even know anyone at all, I have to wonder.

[coolface]

rebeckah last year was worse than deana

[rinkydinkpanther]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

do you even know anyone at all, I have to wonder.

aye I know loads of people, thanks for caring

[rinkydinkpanther]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Please stop posting in caps like that.

When have I generalised based on sex, please tell me?

talking about capital letters, a pathetic diversory tactic when you cant be bothered to follow the argument...youll be picking up on peoples bad spelling next.... you tried to imply my opinion based on actual individuals i have known most of my life was a generalization? that makes zero sense and is in fact a generalization itself

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by rinkydinkpanther

talking about capital letters, a pathetic diversory tactic when you cant be bothered to follow the argument...youll be picking up on peoples bad spelling next.... you tried to imply my opinion based on actual individuals i have known most of my life was a generalization? that makes zero sense and is in fact a generalization itself

I'm a moderator on this site and posting in caps like that is against the rules, which is why I pointed it out to you.

So you think that because you happen to know more controlling females than males that therefore only females are controlling and men never are? That's a bit of a narrow minded assumption to be honest, there's a whole world of people you haven't met out there, I would think you would know that being a controlling person is a personality trait and we all have different personalities no matter what sex we are.

[realitytvsux]

From what I've seen of Deana in the house she seems to have a realistic and pragmatic approach to life. It is not surprising she takes the same approach to love. It is as bit sad that she has come to such a conclusion as quite a young age but I am sure it is based on her own experience or things she has seen. She seems like quite an open person so she might change her mind later on. In any case I think we expect too much from romantic love and end up setting ourselves up for failure when our unrealistic expectations are not met. Hence the UK has one of the highest divorce rates of all,

[rinkydinkpanther]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm a moderator on this site and posting in caps like that is against the rules, which is why I pointed it out to you.

So you think that because you happen to know more controlling females than males that therefore only females are controlling and men never are? That's a bit of a narrow minded assumption to be honest, there's a whole world of people you haven't met out there, I would think you would know that being a controlling person is a personality trait and we all have different personalities no matter what sex we are.

I didnt say that, youre making it up now and being totally disingenuous and you know it. these are my experiences of the people Ive known best.

[rinkydinkpanther]

I would also add in british society female control is considered funny and treated with far far more triviality than male control...the police alone would ignore a man ringing them to complain of a controlling wife, the other way around and he may well be going to jail. there is a cultural bias against men in the uk and a bias in law courts too. this is clearly seen as men lose over 80% of divorce cases, over 80% custody cases and their homes are also lost in over 70% of divorces. if as you say men and women are just individuals and just as good and bad as each other, then the split should be 50/50% approx wins and losses in divorces, custody and keeping the homes, how do you explain this landslide in womens favor and why is it virtually ignored. perhaps while youre at it you can explain why men commit suicide at nearly 4 times the rate too? no you wont address these issues, you will ignore them with diversory tactics. desperate to either disprove me or mock and ignore these major issues. will your male ego allow you to even acknowledge these are serious problems?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by rinkydinkpanther

yeah yet more male hate ignored by the producers and presenters, the show is digustingly misandrist in its hatred of men, she also said last night no man will ever control me, nobody wants to love? all Ive ever seen in my life is either ahealthy balanced relationship or one where the woman controls the man, i have NEVER witnessed any relationship where the man tries to control the woman, and no its not just this era, my grandparents , my great grandparents, my uncles and aunties and great uncles and aunties, everyone of that had women controlling most matters, its a total myth men control women in the uk

Originally Posted by rinkydinkpanther

I didnt say that, youre making it up now and being totally disingenuous and you know it. these are my experiences of the people Ive known best.

Sounds like you did to me, by the bit I have bolded in particular.

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by karezza

I wonder how much she pays her servants in India?

Probably more than half the people who employ, cleaners, childminders, babysitters, cooks,gardeners, window cleaners etc.

It is amazing the number of 'ordinary'people in this country who employ cheap labour.

[rinkydinkpanther]

oh how tedious and pedantic, ignore the major issue and pick up 1 missing adjective, ok its a total myth most men control women in the uk