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People who blame Shievonne seem to forget that Deana was the one trying to manipulate Adam into turning against Lauren 10 minutes earlier and that it was her who came up with the scheme to see if Lauren would repeat what Deana said to her

It's just excuses, Desna has been sneaky and sly all series and tonight just proved that. Somehow I don't think it'd go down well saying "he made one mistake" after Conor made his epilator rant

[dathadiguy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

People who blame Shievonne seem to forget that Deana was the one trying to manipulate Adam into turning against Lauren 10 minutes earlier and that it was her who came up with the scheme to see if Lauren would repeat what Deana said to her

It's just excuses, Desna has been sneaky and sly all series and tonight just proved that. Somehow I don't think it'd go down well saying "he made one mistake" after Conor made his epilator rant

Did she threaten to physically abuse Lauren? Wow what an over-reaction, this is definitely the moment all the anti-Deana lot were waiting for.

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Originally Posted by dathadiguy

Did she threaten to physically abuse Lauren? Wow what an over-reaction, this is definitely the moment all the anti-Deana lot were waiting for.

Obviously I'm not saying the two incidents were exactly the same, it's the point that people are just trying to dismiss this as meaningless because it's apparently just one mistake when really tonight just validated what a lot of people have been saying throughout this series. Deana isn't just the innocent, confused and easily led person you're making her out to be, she knows exactly what she's doing

[jegmeister]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Obviously I'm not saying the two incidents were exactly the same, it's the point that people are just trying to dismiss this as meaningless because it's apparently just one mistake when really tonight just validated what a lot of people have been saying throughout this series. Deana isn't just the innocent, confused and easily led person you're making her out to be, she knows exactly what she's doing

I think you'll find the episode proves that she is precisely that. She has suspicions which have been nastily fuelled by Shievonne and is quite rightly wanting to confirm whether or not they're right. To me, it's actually perfect common sense. Some people who have either never liked her or are more concerned with eliminating the competition from their favourite HM, are trying to rewrite history to suit their own Agenda.

[dathadiguy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Obviously I'm not saying the two incidents were exactly the same, it's the point that people are just trying to dismiss this as meaningless because it's apparently just one mistake when really tonight just validated what a lot of people have been saying throughout this series. Deana isn't just the innocent, confused and easily led person you're making her out to be, she knows exactly what she's doing

Exactly so this is the moment everyone was waiting for. I can do what you just with anyone: I can say so-and-so is an angry person, and wait and wait and wait, then one day when they lose they're temper say I told you so.

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Originally Posted by jegmeister

I think you'll find the episode proves that she is precisely that. She has suspicions which have been nastily fuelled by Shievonne and is quite rightly wanting to confirm whether or not they're right. To me, it's actually perfect common sense. Some people who have either never liked her or are more concerned with eliminating the competition from their favourite HM, are trying to rewrite history to suit their own Agenda.

Eh I don't really agree, feels like people are trying to strip Deana of any responsibility by pinning all the blame on Shievonne, but that wouldn't explain what she said to Adam where she was seeking to plant doubts in the mind of someone who she knows gets along really well with Lauren

Originally Posted by dathadiguy

Exactly so this is the moment everyone was waiting for. I can do what you just with anyone: I can say so-and-so is an angry person, and wait and wait and wait, then one day when they lose they're temper say I told you so.

You could do, but it only really holds weight if those earlier claims had had any basis

[jegmeister]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Eh I don't really agree, feels like people are trying to strip Deana of any responsibility by pinning all the blame on Shievonne, but that wouldn't explain what she said to Adam where she was seeking to plant doubts in the mind of someone who she knows gets along really well with Lauren





You could do, but it only really holds weight if those earlier claims had had any basis

We didn't see what happened to provoke this because of the editing. Are you seriously suggesting that she just thought this out of the blue! Shievonne has been nagging her constantly about some people - including Lauren - for the last two days and yet you think she simply came up with this mistrust about Lauren independently without having any reason to do so? Talk about seeing what you want to see!

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Originally Posted by jegmeister

We didn't see what happened to provoke this because of the editing. Are you seriously suggesting that she just thought this out of the blue! Shievonne has been nagging her constantly about some people - including Lauren - for the last two days and yet you think she simply came up with this mistrust about Lauren independently without having any reason to do so? Talk about seeing what you want to see!

I'm sure she has her reasons why she might distrust Lauren, do you think she's too stupid & incapable of coming to conclusions about people on her own? Like I said, this isn't an isolated incident, it confirmed a lot of suspicions and Deana's more aware of what she's doing you're giving her credit for