[Yayita]

So sad, the Deana and Lauren fans used to be in harmony but now that the Lauren fans feel Deana is after her, and are calling Deana sneaky manipulator; the love affair is over.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Yayita

I like Lauren, she is my second choice but yes, she has issues... I do like that she infiltrates the insiders and then tells the outsiders. Caroline does it too.

Trouble is she's a double agent. She needs to understand that no amount of arse licking will make some people like you - if anything they just despise you more.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Angus

Trouble is she's a double agent. She needs to understand that no amount of arse licking will make some people like you - if anything they just despise you more.

I agree, but the only thing with Lauren is is that she does seem to be arselicking the insiders a whole lot less lately. Maybe she learnt her lesson back in the first few weeks

[Kizzy]

Finally she realised you gan't bully people into liking you... I don't like the way deana is being influenced by shiv to find out her twofacedness, but on this occasion I think she might be right we shall see.

[liveloveadore]

Originally Posted by WozMan

SPOT ON OPTIMISTIC!! Her bahaviour is completely normal and genuine for her personality and the circumstances she has undergone in the house. If DTM finds every person who has ever complained about a person without directly confronting them on it he must hate an AWFUL lot of people. That's just not healthy

You just countered your own argument there. She is doing what any healthy single female would do. She is flirting with some one whom she feels comfortable with who is a strong, confidant, well-adjusted man. Poor girl needs to have some fun with the constant tension of being stuck with people who have been nasty with her from the first week.

SOOO true. The latest Caroline hate campaign against Luke A is a great example. She is ACTIVELY seeking to turn people's opinions against Luke A. She is using every piece of information she can and applying massive amounts of effort and imagination to DEMONISE the lad. Even after Ashleigh disagrees with Caz and says Luke A is a nice person she insists 'NO! He ISN'T! He said X and Y...'

Lauren merely vents about people who are stressing her out. She tried her ABSOLUTE BEST to work on her relationship with Ashleigh. Ashleigh however still hates her guts for no reason Lauren can figure out and thus Lauren is fed up with her constant sniping and ingratitude. And as for Ashleigh 'letting it go' HA!! has she my furry green butt!! The editors can only fit so much bitching into one hour's programming and the Shevonnalogues have been the flava of da week. Ashleigh's hatred for Lauren has been going on since week one and has not stopped. Any convo where Lauren is mentioned she is still very bitchy about her and she has Nommed poor Lauren EVERY SINGLE WEEK. Oh yes, she so obviously 'letting it go!' HHAAAA!!!!

I agree with everything you say, the worst offenders in the house for nastiness and bullying, being fake and outright bitchyness are actually Shievonne and Caroline, closely followed by Conor. Shievonne IMHO has turnt into a bully, she does not listen to a single thing said to her, its her opinion and nobody elses counts. Sarah is a bit like that too, she just does not listen to what others are saying. I actually think the only honest person in that house is Luke A. Ashleigh hates Lauren as she see's her as a threat with Luke.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Conor was just very angry. I don't think he meant it.

Threats are usualy made in anger, that doesn't mean we dismiss them.

The threats against Deana weren't the first threats he'd dished out either.