[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Yayita

I disagree, aaron was not niceat all, stroppy, angry, sulking all the time, fake showmance, talked to the cameras... I disliked him.

If it was a 'showmance' Yayita then why do they still live together and why have they just opened a business together ?
And everyone talks to the cameras, without exception! You're on tv, there are cameras and it's a way of getting your views and frustrations across to the public.
On top of that Aaron had reasons to be stroppy and sulky, maybe not as much as he did, but everyone's different and reacts to situations differently. He was treated appallingly by Big Brother! When they realized they couldn't stop him winning they even took half of the prize money off him ffs!!!

I'm not expecting you to change your opinions of him and i certainly won't be changing mine but you've gotta' realize that enough people saw what i saw in him to vote for him to win and they did so in huge numbers!

It makes no difference that the crowd acted like assholes, they do every week and you've gotta' remember that it was a widely known fact last year that bus loads of Geordies were being shipped down every week organized by Jay's crazy fame-hungry mother. They mean nothing and the way they behaved says far more about them than it did about Aaron!

Anyway, this is all way off-topic.
Deana's gonna' trounce Conor, in this poll and in this year's BB

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by JTM45

If it was a 'showmance' Yayita then why do they still live together and why have they just opened a business together ?
And everyone talks to the cameras, without exception! You're on tv, there are cameras and it's a way of getting your views and frustrations across to the public.
On top of that Aaron had reasons to be stroppy and sulky, maybe not as much as he did, but everyone's different and reacts to situations differently. He was treated appallingly by Big Brother! When they realized they couldn't stop him winning they even took half of the prize money off him ffs!!!

I'm not expecting you to change your opinions of him and i certainly won't be changing mine but you've gotta' realize that enough people saw what i saw in him to vote for him to win and they did so in huge numbers!

It makes no difference that the crowd acted like assholes, they do every week and you've gotta' remember that it was a widely known fact last year that bus loads of Geordies were being shipped down every week organized by Jay's crazy fame-hungry mother. They mean nothing and the way they behaved says far more about them than it did about Aaron!

Anyway, this is all way off-topic.
Deana's gonna' trounce Conor, in this poll and in this year's BB

I think Conor support is growing. I love that he's wising up to her game and staying away from her. If he carries on like this he'll be in the final for sure!

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by JTM45

If it was a 'showmance' Yayita then why do they still live together and why have they just opened a business together ?
And everyone talks to the cameras, without exception! You're on tv, there are cameras and it's a way of getting your views and frustrations across to the public.
On top of that Aaron had reasons to be stroppy and sulky, maybe not as much as he did, but everyone's different and reacts to situations differently. He was treated appallingly by Big Brother! When they realized they couldn't stop him winning they even took half of the prize money off him ffs!!!

I'm not expecting you to change your opinions of him and i certainly won't be changing mine but you've gotta' realize that enough people saw what i saw in him to vote for him to win and they did so in huge numbers!

It makes no difference that the crowd acted like assholes, they do every week and you've gotta' remember that it was a widely known fact last year that bus loads of Geordies were being shipped down every week organized by Jay's crazy fame-hungry mother. They mean nothing and the way they behaved says far more about them than it did about Aaron!

Anyway, this is all way off-topic.
Deana's gonna' trounce Conor, in this poll and in this year's BB

A showmance by defenition is a relationship that starts on a tv show.... But yes this is off topic, I really dont care about him or faye?

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Yayita

A showmance by defenition is a relationship that starts on a tv show.... But yes this is off topic, I really dont care about him or faye?

This is actually taken straight from the actual wikipedia definition Yayita;
"........and between reality show contestants or participants for the running period of the show."

Way,WAY off-topic!!!

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Put you on ignore ???? (now you have me cherry picking lol) Is there a button I can push to get rid of you, or do you mean I need to read your drivle first then ignore you afterwards. Your English has me confused.

There's an ignore function. Either use it or quit lecturing me on forum etiquette.

Hope that was simple enough for you

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by MrWong

There's an ignore function. Either use it or quit lecturing me on forum etiquette.

Hope that was simple enough for you

Mrwong, I happen to love your posts

You should start ignoring some of these peeps.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Yayita

Mrwong, I happen to love your posts

You should start ignoring some of these peeps.

Thanks Yayita, ditto.

I've never had to use the ignore function. I'm pretty thick skinned.

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Thanks Yayita, ditto.

I've never had to use the ignore function. I'm pretty thick skinned.

Theres an ignore function?? Where? I just dont read their post or respond to them. Im not here to argue with these people.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Yayita

Theres an ignore function?? Where? I just dont read their post or respond to them. Im not here to argue with these people.

Actually, i'm just assuming there is, like on DigiSpy.

[joeysteele]

I wouldn't put great faith in the fact that Deana won the 4 way battle, if we knew the percentages breakdown it would be easier to see where they all stood.

I had to accept Arron going and I do know a lot of people who split their votes between Arron and Conor thinking they were helping Conor and that Arron was safe, even those on here who were anti Arron,thought he was safe.I have found that a bad idea to have really as to housemates up for eviction.

Jamie East on bbbots, in response to Emma, who said Deana must be the strongest there now after winning 2 evictions and the 4 way one. Surprisingly Jamie East then said, not necessarily, she is not as popular with the public that people or the housemates believe.
Now, he will likely know the pecentage breakdown of the voting in that 4 way eviction,for some reason they are not now telling us them as they did in the first 3 weeks.

It is not inconceivable then,that in fact all 4 housemates in that 4 way eviction could all have got in the 20%+ region of votes.There could have been as little as only 6% between 1st and 4th place.

They don't now tell us if the voting is close or whatever anymore, so while I admit all the above is guess work never-the less Jamie did say Deana is not as popular as people think with the public,there must be a reason he said that, had she run away with the 4 way eviction result,he couldn't have had any basis to say that.

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I wouldn't put great faith in the fact that Deana won the 4 way battle, if we knew the percentages breakdown it would be easier to see where they all stood.

I had to accept Arron going and I do know a lot of people who split their votes between Arron and Conor thinking they were helping Conor and that Arron was safe, even those on here who were anti Arron,thought he was safe.I have found that a bad idea to have really as to housemates up for eviction.

Jamie East on bbbots, in response to Emma, who said Deana must be the strongest there now after winning 2 evictions and the 4 way one. Surprisingly Jamie East then said, not necessarily, she is not as popular with the public that people or the housemates believe.
Now, he will likely know the pecentage breakdown of the voting in that 4 way eviction,for some reason they are not now telling us them as they did in the first 3 weeks.

It is not inconceivable then,that in fact all 4 housemates in that 4 way eviction could all have got in the 20%+ region of votes.There could have been as little as only 6% between 1st and 4th place.

They don't now tell us if the voting is close or whatever anymore, so while I admit all the above is guess work never-the less Jamie did say Deana is not as popular as people think with the public,there must be a reason he said that, had she run away with the 4 way eviction result,he couldn't have had any basis to say that.

By the same token, Emma would know the numbes too dont you think? Why is Jamie East the all knowing oracle?

[Marcus.]

Deana

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I wouldn't put great faith in the fact that Deana won the 4 way battle, if we knew the percentages breakdown it would be easier to see where they all stood.

I had to accept Arron going and I do know a lot of people who split their votes between Arron and Conor thinking they were helping Conor and that Arron was safe, even those on here who were anti Arron,thought he was safe.I have found that a bad idea to have really as to housemates up for eviction.

Jamie East on bbbots, in response to Emma, who said Deana must be the strongest there now after winning 2 evictions and the 4 way one. Surprisingly Jamie East then said, not necessarily, she is not as popular with the public that people or the housemates believe.
Now, he will likely know the pecentage breakdown of the voting in that 4 way eviction,for some reason they are not now telling us them as they did in the first 3 weeks.

It is not inconceivable then,that in fact all 4 housemates in that 4 way eviction could all have got in the 20%+ region of votes.There could have been as little as only 6% between 1st and 4th place.

They don't now tell us if the voting is close or whatever anymore, so while I admit all the above is guess work never-the less Jamie did say Deana is not as popular as people think with the public,there must be a reason he said that, had she run away with the 4 way eviction result,he couldn't have had any basis to say that.

I didn't see any Arron/Conor fans saying they'd vote for each.

Saw plenty of Deana fans chucking votes Becca's way though. There was even a joint thread on DS to get both Deana and Becca to top the vote.

Last year Aaron topping the vote was talked down, in much the same way you are doing now and look how that turned out.

As for Jamie, he's not a great example really. Up until a few weeks ago he was still saying 'up for nomination'. Also, if he would be likely to know the votes, wouldn't Emma too? Why would only Jamie know? Sorry that doesn't make much sense.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Yayita

By the same token, Emma would know the numbes too dont you think? Why is Jamie East the all knowing oracle?

That's what i'm thinking.

She's higher up the food chain than Jamie East.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Yayita

By the same token, Emma would know the numbes too dont you think? Why is Jamie East the all knowing oracle?

Because he has so much more involvement with BB overall, he even got to select 3 originally rejected housemates to put to the public to vote on to go in after Victoria's eviction.
He has more input overall, Emma is just a presenter, even Brian doesn't get to know the percentage breakdowns it would seem and he is the main presenter.

My question is and I take nothing away from Deana and her winning that 4 way eviction but why would Jamie say, she is not as popular with the public as people and the housemates believe,just after winning that 4 way eviction.
Had she really run away with the votes, no one could have even hinted she may not be as popular as people think.

Jamie East gets on my nerves but sadly he has a lot more to do with BB than many realise in my view.
He also had a big interest in that 4 way battle too, his 'housemate' Becky was up for eviction too.

[Marcus.]

If that happens queen deana for the win

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I wouldn't put great faith in the fact that Deana won the 4 way battle, if we knew the percentages breakdown it would be easier to see where they all stood.

I had to accept Arron going and I do know a lot of people who split their votes between Arron and Conor thinking they were helping Conor and that Arron was safe, even those on here who were anti Arron,thought he was safe.I have found that a bad idea to have really as to housemates up for eviction.

Jamie East on bbbots, in response to Emma, who said Deana must be the strongest there now after winning 2 evictions and the 4 way one. Surprisingly Jamie East then said, not necessarily, she is not as popular with the public that people or the housemates believe.
Now, he will likely know the pecentage breakdown of the voting in that 4 way eviction,for some reason they are not now telling us them as they did in the first 3 weeks.

It is not inconceivable then,that in fact all 4 housemates in that 4 way eviction could all have got in the 20%+ region of votes.There could have been as little as only 6% between 1st and 4th place.

They don't now tell us if the voting is close or whatever anymore, so while I admit all the above is guess work never-the less Jamie did say Deana is not as popular as people think with the public,there must be a reason he said that, had she run away with the 4 way eviction result,he couldn't have had any basis to say that.

Joey, great point mate, i never thought of it that way. I posted that the votes could have been close due to the absence of voting stats but it is clear that the results were closer than we thought. I have a friend in the programme and even she said the percentages were not being given out to the public because endamol didnt want complacency but she knew the tally on the 4 way votes were very close and untill late that afternoon nobody was rehearsing music or questions. The one thing she did tell us was that a late push saved Conor.

There is one thing for sure here, the more Deana pushes Conor to an argumnet, the bigger his support becomes. I think she is ahead as of now but all we need is for her to do one more round of back stabbing and for conor to play the fool a bit like Jay Mcray last year. Our votes this year are expensive so a slight swing is recognisable. One other thing o can tell you all is that the voting revenue is way down this year as opposed to last year even with the 7p votes last year. That isnt helping endamol any. head to head evictions are bad for business so expect a double eviction this week and several candidates up. Hopefully Deana will be on the list but i think its more likely to be caroline and lauren with maybe Becky this week.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by MrWong

That's what i'm thinking.

She's higher up the food chain than Jamie East.

You are so wrong when you say that. She might have a thicker wage packet but Jamie is there every waking hour and has a great deal of influence on the program. He is getting stronger by the day down there and it wont be long before he gets a prime spot and outs lavine who is a nightmare. Last week she ade 19 verbal bloopers in one show and last night she even sent the wrong VT info out. She suffers badly with Nerves and her verbal cock ups hurt her.

jamie knows the percentages as does Emma but Emma comes in, gets glammed up and presents. The 3 hardest workers down there are jamie, Ian and the little knee socks girl whos name escapes me. Emma is super fit but is more of a figurehead than a worker.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

My question is and I take nothing away from Deana and her winning that 4 way eviction but why would Jamie say, she is not as popular with the public as people and the housemates believe,just after winning that 4 way eviction.

Because he's a BB puppet (and a total Dick imo)!
He thinks by saying stuff like this (which he does regularly) it will make people less confident in her and therefore vote more etc. etc.
He said many similar things about Aaron last year and was repeatedly proved wrong (or to have been lying!).

BOTS and it's presenters/guests seem to be just an extension of the BB spin machine these days. They often play down or help cover up awkward situations at BB request it would appear.

[Petershaw1984]

Its a landslide

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MrWong

I didn't see any Arron/Conor fans saying they'd vote for each.

Saw plenty of Deana fans chucking votes Becca's way though. There was even a joint thread on DS to get both Deana and Becca to top the vote.

Last year Aaron topping the vote was talked down, in much the same way you are doing now and look how that turned out.

As for Jamie, he's not a great example really. Up until a few weeks ago he was still saying 'up for nomination'. Also, if he would be likely to know the votes, wouldn't Emma too? Why would only Jamie know? Sorry that doesn't make much sense.

If you read my post throroughly again, you will see I say nothing as to people on here splitting their votes between Arron and Conor, what I said was, I 'know' a lot of people who did that, meaning people I know of personally.All I said was that even those who didn't like Arron on here believed he would be safe anyway.

If you think Jamie East gets no other bits of knowledge fine. To me, it doesn't make sense for him to come on the show just after a 4way eviction battle had been done and then say the winner is 'not' as popular with the public as people believe she is.
That set me asking questions as to why he'd say that and more to the point why Emma didn't contradict him or even challenge him on it either.

Back to Arron and Conor and the voting, I was a really strong Arron supporter, even I thought though about also voting for Conor to help him,however past BB series have shown me that surprises happen all the time and I put all my votes to Arron, however again I repeat, I 'know' loads of people personally who did split their votes between the 2 guys hoping to help Conor and believing Arron was well safe.
One of them split 50 votes between them,had only Arron or Conor been up those votes would have gone to whoever was up.

Last year,never at any time did any presenter or Jamie East ever say Aaron was not as popular with the public as people believe,so your comparison is way out, as in this series it has been said as to Deana who won a 4 way battle.

If you think she is that invincible then why should anyone be bothered if she was up again, she should walk over anyone if she is as popular as you may think she is with the public, as opposed to someone saying who is heavily connected to the show, who for no reason I can see than he must have a bit of info to back him up on it,that in fact she isn't.

Had he for instance instead said, oh yes Deana is now in the position where she could beat anyone, you would 'possibly' be crowing about that statement to high heaven,possibly even saying,well he should know that too.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Yayita

Theres an ignore function?? Where? I just dont read their post or respond to them. Im not here to argue with these people.

Originally Posted by MrWong

Actually, i'm just assuming there is, like on DigiSpy.

Yeah if you just go to someone's user profile and then click "user lists" there's an option to add them to your ignore list

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by sampvt

You are so wrong when you say that. She might have a thicker wage packet but Jamie is there every waking hour and has a great deal of influence on the program. He is getting stronger by the day down there and it wont be long before he gets a prime spot and outs lavine who is a nightmare. Last week she ade 19 verbal bloopers in one show and last night she even sent the wrong VT info out. She suffers badly with Nerves and her verbal cock ups hurt her.

jamie knows the percentages as does Emma but Emma comes in, gets glammed up and presents. The 3 hardest workers down there are jamie, Ian and the little knee socks girl whos name escapes me. Emma is super fit but is more of a figurehead than a worker.

That's not true at all, i follow him on Twitter. He's a bit part presenter. As you say, Even Alice has a bigger role than Jamie.

Looks like posters are trying to exaggerate Jamie's role to try and justify his comments about the vote.

If as you say Emma knows the numbers, then you can't ignore her when she said Deana's very popular, can you?

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah if you just go to someone's user profile and then click "user lists" there's an option to add them to your ignore list

Yeah, thought there might be.

Thanks MTVN.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

If you read my post throroughly again, you will see I say nothing as to people on here splitting their votes between Arron and Conor, what I said was, I 'know' a lot of people who did that, meaning people I know of personally.All I said was that even those who didn't like Arron on here believed he would be safe anyway.

If you think Jamie East gets no other bits of knowledge fine. To me, it doesn't make sense for him to come on the show just after a 4way eviction battle had been done and then say the winner is 'not' as popular with the public as people believe she is.
That set me asking questions as to why he'd say that and more to the point why Emma didn't contradict him or even challenge him on it either.

Back to Arron and Conor and the voting, I was a really strong Arron supporter, even I thought though about also voting for Conor to help him,however past BB series have shown me that surprises happen all the time and I put all my votes to Arron, however again I repeat, I 'know' loads of people personally who did split their votes between the 2 guys hoping to help Conor and believing Arron was well safe.
One of them split 50 votes between them,had only Arron or Conor been up those votes would have gone to whoever was up.

Last year,never at any time did any presenter or Jamie East ever say Aaron was not as popular with the public as people believe,so your comparison is way out, as in this series it has been said as to Deana who won a 4 way battle.

If you think she is that invincible then why should anyone be bothered if she was up again, she should walk over anyone if she is as popular as you may think she is with the public, as opposed to someone saying who is heavily connected to the show, who for no reason I can see than he must have a bit of info to back him up on it,that in fact she isn't.

Had he for instance instead said, oh yes Deana is now in the position where she could beat anyone, you would 'possibly' be crowing about that statement to high heaven,possibly even saying,well he should know that too.

Convenient. Funny how that never showed in the thousands of posts onine.

So jamie gets bits of knowledge but Emma doesn't? Sorry, not buying it.