[calyman]

Originally Posted by kizzy

I would have considered benedict a sex education teacher when he was employed as one, now he works in the porn industry.
And there we have it, 'that is his choice'
He can do and say whatever he likes, ashleigh can too...She may be monosyllabic but she is as entitled as benedict to her say

You are talking about two separate issues and conflating them. Yes Benedict works in the sex industry, that's his choice. No one who doesn't want to, is forced to watch his films.

As to their respective approaches towards sex, Benedict seeks to raise awareness of sex and sexual health issues. Ashley uses perverse talk of sex as a means of social interaction. She may be entitled to her views but is not entitled to disgust others by espousing them.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by calyman

You are talking about two separate issues and conflating them. Yes Benedict works in the sex industry, that's his choice. No one who doesn't want to, is forced to watch his films.

As to their respective approaches towards sex, Benedict seeks to raise awareness of sex and sexual health issues. Ashley uses perverse talk of sex as a means of social interaction. She may be entitled to her views but is not entitled to disgust others by espousing them.

I am not conflating anything, I couldn't be clearer in my mind on this issue.
If I wished to have my awareness raised I will look to a more reliable source than a man who has sex for money.
Anyone who does not wish to hear ashleigh may switch off at any point when she appears on screen....

[AshesonMars]

Wow. What a massive hypocrite Calyman is.

I don't like Ashleigh either, but I can't see why she is a '*****' yet Benedict isn't. Men are slapped on the back for sleeping around with as many women as they possibly can and they're slapped on their back by their mates when they brag to each other about their sexual exploits. When a woman does it, she's branded as a '*****' or a 'slut.'

Total hypocrisy.

Men don't own sex.

[bbfan1991]

Woah that is harsh, she obviously likes sex and is foul mouthed, dense etc but we do not know much about Ashleigh's life away from the show.

I tend to judge these people on their time in the house and could not give a toss what they are like outside anymore, this lot will soon be forgotten in a few weeks once the final is over.

[calyman]

Originally Posted by kizzy

I am not conflating anything, I couldn't be clearer in my mind on this issue.
If I wished to have my awareness raised I will look to a more reliable source than a man who has sex for money.
Anyone who does not wish to hear ashleigh may switch off at any point when she appears on screen....

I think you're personalising this issue. I am speaking in a general way. I may indeed wish to switch off when ashlley speaks, that's my choice. You may choose to research a more reliable tutor on sexual awareness. However, my argument is based on their respective attitudes towards sex.

In general, Benedict is consistent and clear on why he speaks on sexual matters, Ashley clearly does because she has limited social skills and uses sexual vulgarity as a means of communication.

[calyman]

Originally Posted by AshesonMars

Wow. What a massive hypocrite Calyman is.

I don't like Ashleigh either, but I can't see why she is a '*****' yet Benedict isn't. Men are slapped on the back for sleeping around with as many women as they possibly can and they're slapped on their back by their mates when they brag to each other about their sexual exploits. When a woman does it, she's branded as a '*****' or a 'slut.'

Total hypocrisy.

Men don't own sex.

Erm, at no point have I claimed she is a *****, I believe the term I used was skank which I believe she is. The reasons for that, I have clearly outlined. I wouldn't care if Ashley or any other person engaged in sex. What I am talking about is the manner in which this is done.

You assume that I am basing my argument on a man v woman approach, which I think you yourself are doing. That, I believe, is biased and suggests hypocrisy.

If Ashley was the sex worker who wanted to raise awareness of sexual health and Benedict was someone like Conor, then I'd be similarly justifying Ashley and slating Conor (which I'm more than happy to do, anway)c

[alex_front2]

Fag Ash is one of those plain girls who talk about sex to attract men.

[Shaun]

This thread reeks of misogyny.

[InOne]

I'm sure there is a reason why all slappers have a nasty personality, it's no accident. She has just been so awful so many times that she doesn't deserve to be defended. No matter what 'insecurities' she may or may not have.

[Lister of Smeg]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Fag Ash is one of those plain girls who talk about sex to attract men.

This she wouldnt attract many men with her looks thats for sure .

[InOne]

Originally Posted by AshesonMars

Wow. What a massive hypocrite Calyman is.

I don't like Ashleigh either, but I can't see why she is a '*****' yet Benedict isn't. Men are slapped on the back for sleeping around with as many women as they possibly can and they're slapped on their back by their mates when they brag to each other about their sexual exploits. When a woman does it, she's branded as a '*****' or a 'slut.'

Total hypocrisy.

Men don't own sex.

You do realise it's often common for women to call eachother slappers before the men even think of it. They do themselves no favours really, when girls insult eachother it's often with that label.

[Cherie]

I dont know if she is a *****, but she has appalling table manners, I hope dessert wasn't rice pudding or tapioca....

[Bojangles]

Originally Posted by coolface

dat nose

probably done to match her boob job.

[Roy Mars III]

you say it like it's a bad thing

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by KingOfTheMods

She's a crack *****, sucks c**k for rock.

best post of the series lol

[smeagol]

she's swallowed more semen than the english channel that one.
she's a disgusting creature most peoples idear of goin down the local is down the pub but for her its probably the std clinic. i wouldn't touch her with a space suit on. skanky trollop.

[Censored]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Fag Ash is one of those plain girls who talk about sex to attract men.

Nearly. She is one of those plain girls that offer easy sex to attract men. I believe that the correct nomenclature is "pig". As in, "He goes to parties just to **** all the pigs..."

The words "second-hand" and "dartboard" spring to mind.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by calyman

I think you're personalising this issue. I am speaking in a general way. I may indeed wish to switch off when ashlley speaks, that's my choice. You may choose to research a more reliable tutor on sexual awareness. However, my argument is based on their respective attitudes towards sex.

In general, Benedict is consistent and clear on why he speaks on sexual matters, Ashley clearly does because she has limited social skills and uses sexual vulgarity as a means of communication.

By giving my opinion I am personalising the issue.
In general benedict feels the way he conducts himself and his attitude towards sex and masturbation are fine and correct...I however do not, that is my choice.
There are lots of young women up and down the contry just like ashleigh, who are we to sit in judgement and scoff at their lack of decorum?

[calyman]

Originally Posted by kizzy

By giving my opinion I am personalising the issue.
In general benedict feels the way he conducts himself and his attitude towards sex and masturbation are fine and correct...I however do not, that is my choice.
There are lots of young women up and down the contry just like ashleigh, who are we to sit in judgement and scoff at their lack of decorum?

What I'm suggesting is that by personalising this, your opinion is clouding the issue. Opinions can often be flawed. Well thought out arguments however, tend to result in greater clarity.

I agree there are many young women just like ashley. It is my considered opinion, that is part of the canker in our society. You may find such behaviour acceptable, I do not.

[Mystic Mock]

Yes she is, an ugly one at it aswell.

[Johnnyuk123]

Yes she is the town bike.

[Lister of Smeg]

Well she passing her viruses around via lipstick what a classy lady .

[Bojangles]

To be fair to the girl she is starting to take stock of herself as seen last night on BBBOTS.When she stated.That she maybe coming across at too common.
So she may start to change herself,her time will have been well spent in the house in that case.

[Gillian-73]

Originally Posted by Bojangles

To be fair to the girl she is starting to take stock of herself as seen last night on BBBOTS.When she stated.That she maybe coming across at too common.
So she may start to change herself,her time will have been well spent in the house in that case.

I suppose she could. But, if that is the real her, which i believe it is then it isn't that easy to change. I hope she does take something good away from this.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Lister of Smeg

Seriously I was tucking ito my chinese when that bit about Ashleigh came on on BOTS and while we all know she is a bit of a shameless tart up until this point last night biggin summed it up gthis woman is a ***** serious tossing guys off under tables possing wwith a dildo with a grin on her face that pic almost made me throw up a little .

Im all for being more open about sex andd sexuality in genral but Ashleigh is just down right disgusting when Bennedict talked about it he did it in a tasteful manner and not in a sleazy way like Ashleigh does .

No not *****
but does Raw Sex