[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Yep, that's normally how it normally works Kiz.

My questions were very clear. Perhaps the jobs you have applied for were not jobs that you were right for? Only you know the answer to that - and clearly, you aren't willing to discuss why you are being unsuccessful.

I also see that you avoided (again) any reply about the option of using agencies for temporary work in the interim and avoided any further dicussion on the merits and benefits of trying to secure work through such means .

Why on earth would I apply for positions I was unsuitable for pyra...
That would make no sense whatsoever would it?
I just did discuss why I was unsuccessful...I explained I did not get the job.
I have applied for temp work through agencies also, what do you suggest I try next?...A sandwich board perhaps?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Why on earth would I apply for positions I was unsuitable for pyra...
That would make no sense whatsoever would it?
I just did discuss why I was unsuccessful...I explained I did not get the job.
I have applied for temp work through agencies also, what do you suggest I try next?...A sandwich board perhaps?

It's a safe bet to say that if a person doesn't get the job that they were interviewed for, that they were unsuccessful.

I really am truly staggered to learn that you have applied for temporary work through agencies - yet appear have been offered nothing at all.

I honestly have to say Kiz that I have never known anyone who has registered with agencies for temp work, who has not been offered work. Now before you make any incorrect assumption: that is not a a slight on you lest you take it that way .

I do know of those who registered with agencies but rejected work offered to them because they did not agree with the salary they were being paid. perhaps agency work in Scotland is far more easy to secure?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

It's a safe bet to say that if a person doesn't get the job that they were interviewed for, that they were unsuccessful.

I really am truly staggered to learn that you have applied for temporary work through agencies - yet appear have been offered nothing at all.

I honestly have to say Kiz that I have never known anyone who has registered with agencies for temp work, who has not been offered work. Now before you make any incorrect assumption: that is not a a slight on you lest you take it that way .

I do know of those who registered with agencies but rejected work offered to them because they did not agree with the salary they were being paid. perhaps agency work in Scotland is far more easy to secure?

Perhaps...

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

It's a safe bet to say that if a person doesn't get the job that they were interviewed for, that they were unsuccessful.

I really am truly staggered to learn that you have applied for temporary work through agencies - yet appear have been offered nothing at all.

I honestly have to say Kiz that I have never known anyone who has registered with agencies for temp work, who has not been offered work. Now before you make any incorrect assumption: that is not a a slight on you lest you take it that way .

I do know of those who registered with agencies but rejected work offered to them because they did not agree with the salary they were being paid. perhaps agency work in Scotland is far more easy to secure?

Just because you are signed up to an agency it does not guarantee you employment, you still have to go through interviews which does not guarantee you a job been offered.
If you are up against numerous people going for the same job your chances become less for securing a position.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Just because you are signed up to an agency it does not guarantee you employment, you still have to go through interviews which does not guarantee you a job been offered.
If you are up against numerous people going for the same job your chances become less for securing a position.

My own experience of agency work could not be further from what you have described above. any time in the past where I have used an agency: the agency already has contracts in place with various companies, for the agency to provide their clients with workers.

It's been nothing more difficult than registering with the agency - they offer you temp positions and you either say yes or no. That's how easy it was - and not just for me, for others who were with the same agency - ie: foreigners, those in their late teens, mature students returnig back to work, and even those in their 60s were offered (and took) work via nothing more than registering and taking a basic keyboard test.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Just because you are signed up to an agency it does not guarantee you employment, you still have to go through interviews which does not guarantee you a job been offered.
If you are up against numerous people going for the same job your chances become less for securing a position.

You are right Ellen,I am with you here.
I know Students who are signed up to Agencies,just for temporary work even really but some have never had a place to go to yet, some also have to keep pushing to see if there is anything about.

I also have spoken to a good number of people who in order to hold their jobs have had to see their hours cut from 37+ to 30 hours a week, meaning a good loss of income for them.
More and more people are now in what is more like part time work rather than the good full time hours they had before.

There are always companies culling staff and other companies taking on a few more people, likely never enough to start eating into the unemployed though, it is also likely a bit easier to get into a job if you have only just recently been made unemployed,once you have been out of work for a while, it then gets more and more difficult.

You don't have to be a mathematician however to work out that with an estimated just under 0.5 million vacancies in the Country and around 2.6 million unemployed that those figures are not divisible to help cut unemployment.You cannot get 2.6 million into half a million,no matter how you try.

It is really good if someone can lose a job, then quickly succeed in finding another quickly,good luck to them,that is brilliant,likely achieved by a lot of skill and also a bit of luck too.
However my own thoughts would be they are more likely a minority rather than a majority of people looking for and/or needing work.

There are lots of other factors as to getting a job, the interview process, how to properly prepare a CV too, these are the areas the Govt needs to get right into to help people find work.
Overall though, an absolutely massive amount of investment in creating jobs needs to take place and also measures to ensure those jobs are lasting,long time positions.

The future doesn't look good on all fronts and I am personally just thankful that I will have 2 careers I could go into after Uni, I will really consider myself one of the lucky ones and not generalise that all should be able to do what I will have been fortunate to have been able to.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You are right Ellen,I am with you here.
I know Students who are signed up to Agencies,just for temporary work even really but some have never had a place to go to yet, some also have to keep pushing to see if there is anything about.

I also have spoken to a good number of people who in order to hold their jobs have had to see their hours cut from 37+ to 30 hours a week, meaning a good loss of income for them.
More and more people are now in what is more like part time work rather than the good full time hours they had before.

There are always companies culling staff and other companies taking on a few more people, likely never enough to start eating into the unemployed though, it is also likely a bit easier to get into a job if you have only just recently been made unemployed,once you have been out of work for a while, it then gets more and more difficult.

You don't have to be a mathematician however to work out that with an estimated just under 0.5 million vacancies in the Country and around 2.6 million unemployed that those figures are not divisible to help cut unemployment.You cannot get 2.6 million into half a million,no matter how you try.

It is really good if someone can lose a job, then quickly succeed in finding another quickly,good luck to them,that is brilliant,likely achieved by a lot of skill and also a bit of luck too.
However my own thoughts would be they are more likely a minority rather than a majority of people looking for and/or needing work.

There are lots of other factors as to getting a job, the interview process, how to properly prepare a CV too, these are the areas the Govt needs to get right into to help people find work.
Overall though, an absolutely massive amount of investment in creating jobs needs to take place and also measures to ensure those jobs are lasting,long time positions.

The future doesn't look good on all fronts and I am personally just thankful that I will have 2 careers I could go into after Uni, I will really consider myself one of the lucky ones and not generalise that all should be able to do what I will have been fortunate to have been able to.

this is a great post!

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You are right Ellen,I am with you here.
I know Students who are signed up to Agencies,just for temporary work even really but some have never had a place to go to yet, some also have to keep pushing to see if there is anything about.

I also have spoken to a good number of people who in order to hold their jobs have had to see their hours cut from 37+ to 30 hours a week, meaning a good loss of income for them.

More and more people are now in what is more like part time work rather than the good full time hours they had before.

There are always companies culling staff and other companies taking on a few more people, likely never enough to start eating into the unemployed though, it is also likely a bit easier to get into a job if you have only just recently been made unemployed,once you have been out of work for a while, it then gets more and more difficult.

You don't have to be a mathematician however to work out that with an estimated just under 0.5 million vacancies in the Country and around 2.6 million unemployed that those figures are not divisible to help cut unemployment.You cannot get 2.6 million into half a million,no matter how you try.

It is really good if someone can lose a job, then quickly succeed in finding another quickly,good luck to them,that is brilliant,likely achieved by a lot of skill and also a bit of luck too.
However my own thoughts would be they are more likely a minority rather than a majority of people looking for and/or needing work.

There are lots of other factors as to getting a job, the interview process, how to properly prepare a CV too, these are the areas the Govt needs to get right into to help people find work.
Overall though, an absolutely massive amount of investment in creating jobs needs to take place and also measures to ensure those jobs are lasting,long time positions.

The future doesn't look good on all fronts and I am personally just thankful that I will have 2 careers I could go into after Uni, I will really consider myself one of the lucky ones and not generalise that all should be able to do what I will have been fortunate to have been able to.

In all seriousness Joey: if you truly believe that it is up to the Government to show people how to handle interviews and how to prepare CV's ... then I do fear for the future of our country. How much pampering do the job seekers want?

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

In all seriousness Joey: if you truly believe that it is up to the Government to show people how to handle interviews and how to prepare CV's ... then I do fear for the future of our country. How much pampering do the job seekers want?

Its not pampering, its helping people to make the best of themselves when looking for work.
If it helps people back into the work force then it is a positive.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Its not pampering, its helping people to make the best of themselves when looking for work.
If it helps people back into the work force then it is a positive.

Absolutely. I agree again.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Its not pampering, its helping people to make the best of themselves when looking for work.
If it helps people back into the work force then it is a positive.

Which is already available in all manner of forms and resources: Given the amount of resources already available (see my previous post) - I'd say that it amounts to a certain degree of some wanting mollycoddled and having someone else do all the ground work for them.

I am also referring to the blocks that some job seekers place on being able to being offered employment: some i do feel limit their choices due to their own lack of flexibility - but use that as excuses for not finding work.

If I had decided I was only going to seek employment in a company that I did not need to use my car to reach the workplace , that was within walking distance of my home, that I would only work Monday to Friday and ony between the hours of 10am to 4pm, would not consider any other hours, would not consider anything less that £17 per hour and wanted flexi-time, provided me with health benefits etc - I'm pretty sure I'd have found it damned hard to be re-employed so quickly.

This is the angle I am coming from.