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I quite often agree with you, it's telling you only chose to respond to me on the one post I challenged your views.
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HEY! we're here to discuss a topic, not attack each other or make judgements about each other's personal lives. calm down.
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Don't be afraid to be weak. Last edited by lostalex; 13-09-2012 at 12:42 AM. |
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i have not made any judgements on your personal life or attacked you personally at all. I don't know anything about you personally and i don't have any interest in your personal life.
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as for this particular incident, this poster is promoting and showing off illegal drug use and yet you say nothing. time to to re-set your moral compass. |
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So you're saying smoking weed is worse than you being a hate-filled misogynist bigot? Sorry i disagree. And calling you a bigot has nothing to do with your personal life, it's based purely on your comments on this website. It is in no way related to anything you do in your personal life, because as i've already said, i know NOTHING about what you do outside of this forum.
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Don't be afraid to be weak. Last edited by lostalex; 13-09-2012 at 01:18 AM. |
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I said for the first time since August 2010,I actuallt felt a bit sorry for him in the context of being caught out with this comment he made, just as I also felt sorry for Gordon Brown when he made his bigot gaffe comment during the 2010 election campaign as to a voter.
That doesn't though mean I have gained a single gramme of respect for the Lib Dems under Clegg as to whatever their policies are now and aslo as to the extreme things they have supported fully in Parliament. Coalition Govt should be aboput moderation and compromise not near total surrender of your polices and principles. I voted Lib Dem in 2010, after being promised all sorts from near being stalked by their candidates and party canvassers as a student, I will be unlikely to vote for them again for at least decades. As Livia said, they have thrown out near all they said they stood for and really believed in, to hold a miserable few Ministerial positions and to be able to say they had a say in power for 4 or 5 years. Not everything they say is wrong and everyone makes errors and gaffes when making off the cuff comments or even in speeches at times. I can have sympathy for that as to Clegg on this issue in this thread,however for his and his party's total betrayal of the trust that was put in them from those who trusted them and voted for them,I will treat them and talk about them in the only way I believe right after that and that is with total contempt towards them. Last edited by joeysteele; 13-09-2012 at 11:06 AM. |
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"I voted Lib Dem in 2010, after being promised all sorts from near being stalked by their candidates and party canvassers as a student, I will be unlikely to vote for them again for at least decades."
But Everyone knew LibDem could Never Get Full Power. so you wasted your Vote. |
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Yes Kizzy but not Full Power
like he thought. So Education you Pay. |
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So? If it stops the destruction of the country then yes some policies fall by the wayside...It's for the greater good.
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Yes I knew it would be a Conservative - LibDem power
and its great that they set 5 year elections as the standard. Dave and Nick doing good. Last edited by arista; 13-09-2012 at 12:03 PM. |
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It was my first vote in a General election, I could have never voted for Labour in 2010,no way. I liked the Conservatives plan for the reduction of the deficit but was deeply suspicious as to them on the NHS, knowing a good few people who really relied on the NHS. I was totally against the raising by at least doubling tuition fees so I couldn't bring myself to vote Conservative either. The Lib Dems hounded students where I was, stating if the Conservatives got an overall majority,they would at least double tuition fees, that they would increase VAT, also make damaging cuts in the first year that would threaten any economic recovery and maybe take the UK back into recession. Those 3 issues coupled with the promise and even signed pledge on one of them, that in no circumstances would Lib Dem MP's ever support those measures in Parliament won them my vote. It was clear all through the election campaign from the polls that no party was likely to get any kind of working overall majority so I put my trust and faith in the Lib Dems to deliver those gurantees and promises. I and some other students even had a face to face meeting with a Lib Dem MP who re-inforced those promises, yet that MP supported when the polices came to the the vote in Parliament,the cuts in the first year,the raising of tuition fees, not by doubling them but by trebling them and also the VAT increase. The coalition has had it's chance for me,I really have no idea where politics goes from here, over 30 years we had firstly strong,(in the sense of good overall majorities),Conservative Govt for 18 years, we then had 13 unbroken years of strong Labour Govt. Both made massive errors and failed to set up the stability of good and fair Govt for all the Nation. We now come to and have had a Coalition Govt that is failing on near all it set out to do. Too many costly reforms, virtually no compassion to the weakest in society,pushing policies out, then having to re-think as to them again and further modifying them as opposition looms against them. We are in a double dip recession that could last longer than the original one,yet all we get from the 2 parties in the Coalition is no change needed. This is all likely going to see a Labour Govt with a majority win the next elction again, the Conservatives in my view, have no way of getting more than 36% of the votes in an election, the Lib Dems will be lucky to get 15%.they have certainly lost for a good while, at least 8% of the people who voted for them in 2010. Students won't trust the Conservatives after the trebling of the fees, neither will they trust the Lib Dems for their long list of broken promises. You are right though, I did waste my vote in 2010 on the Lib Dems, I know absolutely loads of others who feel the same. Obviously,I will wait until the next election to see what are the results of these policies and reforms,the one for sure I will not do is vote for the Lib Dems again. I am not a party political person, I see the good and bad in all parties,I believe in consensus politics and there are MPs in all parties that are consensus politicians,that is what I hoped for from this Coalition but they have been worse than the previous Conservative then Labour Govts of the last 30+ years put together,in my opinion anyway. Oh gosh, just seen the length of this post, I better stop now. Last edited by joeysteele; 13-09-2012 at 12:09 PM. |
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"Oh gosh, just seen the length of this post, I better stop now. "
No its great you post so much. Well done |
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Vicky no enough people are Voting so LibDems can only be in a joint deal. The current voting style means they can not get enough to take full power. And if you were watching the TV debates Nick did very well so I do not blame you Vicky. |
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you also ignore the FACT drugs leads to more drugs. You assume this poster who shows off about taking drugs, is smoking weed, you also wrongly assume soft drugs (if this is what hes taking) doesnt lead to harder drugs, which factually is totally wrong. a correlation has been proved so again you are plain wrong. Your narrow sexist male hating, agenda is utterly transparent. this is probably why yoyu come on here to find like minded bigots with narrow minds and narrow agendas. Disgraceful. |
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But Kizzy the Voting System has Not Changed.
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