[Livia]

Originally Posted by the truth

no the creators believe dalton was the closest to the bond they wrote, though connery was close, as for craig, imho he is by far the worst bond, utterly charmless, humourless and gadgetless, in reality black humour is a massive part of everyday life in the secret service or any combat role, so his deadpan humourless take is not remotely realistic. the fact he got overhyped for one scene showing off his gym muscles, just about sums about how far the franchise has fallen. the last craig movie was no better than your run of the mill scwarzennegger turkey from the 1980s muscles and explosions and nothing else,very poor indeed.

No?

I'm talking about Fleming's original books rather than what the producers said about their own screenplays. To me, Craig is the closest to the Bond of the books who is quite a different animal to the Bond on screen. The only thing missing from the Daniel Craig films as far as I'm concerned is that they don't use the Bond incidental music enough... or, in fact, at all in Casino Royale.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

No?

I'm talking about Fleming's original books rather than what the producers said about their own screenplays. To me, Craig is the closest to the Bond of the books who is quite a different animal to the Bond on screen. The only thing missing from the Daniel Craig films as far as I'm concerned is that they don't use the Bond incidental music enough... or, in fact, at all in Casino Royale.

as with many topics we shall have to agree to disagree. I think the craig bond films are simply run of the mill boring action films, he lacks almost everything including, charisma, humour, charm, fun, one liners, gadgets etc Im also pretty sure fleming didnt write a politically correct bond either, so its not like the book in that aspect either

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

as with many topics we shall have to agree to disagree. I think the craig bond films are simply run of the mill boring action films, he lacks almost everything including, charisma, humour, charm, fun, one liners, gadgets etc Im also pretty sure fleming didnt write a politically correct bond either, so its not like the book in that aspect either

I'm not exactly a Bond fan but I would assume that Bond changed with the times rather than because of what actor played him. The older Bond films were fairly sexist and old fashioned

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm not exactly a Bond fan but I would assume that Bond changed with the times rather than because of what actor played him. The older Bond films were fairly sexist and old fashioned

nah they werent, bond women were the equal of bond, heck one of them head scissored him nearly to death in the 1960's it was harmless fun and entertainment, outside of the feminazis I dont recall any woman being offended...most of the tales were about crazy male megalomaniacs trying to destroy the world and the british secret service trying to foil them.... now every script has to be passed by the equal opportunities commitee. its pathetic....if they want to destroy all the gdagets all the fun and frolics , then may as well just burn the books and kill the greatest franchise in movie history.....then you can get harriet harmon to write the next bond....health and safety alone would then ensure bond is dead forever