[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by kizzy

This whole issue is an example of his ineptitude, the role of chief whip is to ensure standards are maintained. That MP's behave in a manner fitting of their status and conduct themselves in public with dignity. Making sure they don't compromise themselves andrecieve negative press that brings themselves and their party into disrepute...
Nevermind the 'yes but what about' I am discussing this issue on this thread as it is the topic offered by the OP.
If we start flying off on a tangent where will it end?....

You brought into play the generalisation of the attitudes overall towards the police - I addressed what you brought into the discussion yourself.


What was an example of his ineptitude of his working role? That he was human, had a slight altercation with an equally feisty and equally vocal policeman? I'd regard that as him being human rather than some robot.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

You brought into play the generalisation of the attitudes overall towards the police - I addressed what you brought into the discussion yourself.


What was an example of his ineptitude of his working role? That he was human, had a slight altercation with an equally feisty and equally vocal policeman? I'd regard that as him being human rather than some robot.

I commented on how this impacts on public perception of the police, nothing else.
Equally feisty and vocal police officer? He was doing his job, following procedures.
If Mr Mitchell had allowed him to do this and kept a civil tongue in his head he would not be clearing out his desk would he?
What are you trying to say pyra... we are all human but some are more human than others?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by kizzy

I commented on how this impacts on public perception of the police, nothing else.
Equally feisty and vocal police officer? He was doing his job, following procedures.
If Mr Mitchell had allowed him to do this and kept a civil tongue in his head he would not be clearing out his desk would he?
What are you trying to say pyra... we are all human but some are more human than others?

Since when was it a police officer's duty to threaten a member of the public with "I'll have your job for this". They are there to protect - not threaten them on a personal level. Yes, that's an extreme version of 'threatening' but it was still a threat nontheless. Since when was that police procedures?

What are you trying to say pyra... we are all human but some are more human than others?

That's precisely what I am saying.

if you don't believe that: you only have to look at some of the unbelievable horrors and levels of abuse of all nature: that some 'humans' inflict on others.

Both of these persons hurtled some form of verbal abuse to each other: why is one commended for his action, when the other subject to even more abuse? One rule for one person working for the good of the public, being paid for out of the public coffers: and one rule for another person working for the good of the public, being paid for out of the public coffers.