[the truth]

Originally Posted by anniek76

I don't think of myself as religious per se but I do believe in god. I feel the whole topic of religion is so sensitive, religion causes more wars than anything. I feel it is a deeply personal thing but if someone takes comfort in believing then that is what it should be about. Extremes of religion are difficult to understand though.

religion causes absolutely NO wars. man causes wars.
wars happened before religion and they would happen if religion ceased to exist. war is about greed, for land for power , for oil , for legacy. to blame war on religion is as stupid as blaming war on movies, music, sports , you may as well blame wars on trees for providing the wood in the spears. its nothing to do with religion at all.

[nicole_burks]

Not really. My parents are very religious, and try to force it upon me which makes me not want to be religious.
I believe there is a god, but I don't really practice any "religious" type things.

[GypsyGoth]

Am I religious?

Well I don't believe in any of the many organised religions. I can't understand why they feel the need to brainwash their kids into their belief systems, if their religion was the right one, wouldn't people gravitate towards it naturally when they're old enough to make choices. And the majority of them seem to be sexist organisations, plus they all share these odd rules about food, I guess it's something to do with control.

And the whole idea of heaven is kinda silly, where is it meant to be, in an alternate universe? Or in the sky? Or existing in some magical place that we can't detect, but we can only get to by going through death?

So no, I guess I'm not religious. I can't have faith in some primitive belief system.

Also isn't it odd the way they all ask for money off of people, like shouldn't the money be going the other way. If these priests, holymen or shamans are closer to these all powerful gods, why don't they magic up some money for their devout followers. It seems like such a scam.

Lastly I guess I should add that I wasn't born into any religion, and if I offended any god worshippers here I apologise.

[Ninastar]

claudia as a god worshipper i'm so offended. you should be ashamed tbh

[GypsyGoth]

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by the truth

religion causes absolutely NO wars. man causes wars.
wars happened before religion and they would happen if religion ceased to exist. war is about greed, for land for power , for oil , for legacy. to blame war on religion is as stupid as blaming war on movies, music, sports , you may as well blame wars on trees for providing the wood in the spears. its nothing to do with religion at all.

Having thought about your argument you are probably right but those who want war use religion as an excuse to attract support from those with no material stake in a conflict - so I concede you are correct.

[SharkAttack]

Originally Posted by anniek76

Having thought about your argument you are probably right but those who want war use religion as an excuse to attract support from those with no material stake in a conflict - so I concede you are correct.

Nicely done, AnnieK!

[InOne]

Originally Posted by the truth

religion causes absolutely NO wars. man causes wars.
wars happened before religion and they would happen if religion ceased to exist. war is about greed, for land for power , for oil , for legacy. to blame war on religion is as stupid as blaming war on movies, music, sports , you may as well blame wars on trees for providing the wood in the spears. its nothing to do with religion at all.

Well, you're only half right. People have gone to war because they genuinely believed they were fighting for God. Have you not heard of the term 'Holy War'?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by InOne

Well, you're only half right. People have gone to war because they genuinely believed they were fighting for God. Have you not heard of the term 'Holy War'?

Yeah, it's a bit of both really I think. It is "mans" fault really for brain washing people to try and control them. That's why I don't like organised religion, if there is a god and he gave us free will, why do we need a religion to tell us what to do and when we can eat meat etc? Surely he'd want us to believe and be moral using our own brain?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, it's a bit of both really I think. It is "mans" fault really for brain washing people to try and control them. That's why I don't like organised religion, if there is a god and he gave us free will, why do we need a religion to tell us what to do and when we can eat meat etc? Surely he'd want us to believe and be moral using our own brain?

Guess it all leads back to the quote "Opium of the masses"

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by InOne

Guess it all leads back to the quote "Opium of the masses"

Absolutely.

[armand.kay]

I'm kinda spiritual, I don't really believe in god but I still pray, I don't realy know what I am I'm just confused but if there is a god I'm sure he is nothing like religions make him out to be like but if he is then he's a douchebag.