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| View Poll Results: Abortion - right or wrong? | ||||||
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| I support abortion but there needs to be a limit |
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5 | 11.36% | |||
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| Depends on the circumstances (relative morality) |
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| It's absolutely wrong - end of (absolute morality) |
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What I'm saying is, is that biologically it is there to create offspring. Therefore, whether you want a child or not you run the risk of making one every time you have sex. Therefore, you should be prepared for that outcome. |
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..exactly, I think you either agree with it or don't..there aren't any ifs or buts..other than medical ones...
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I think it's stupid for calling single people sluts though, the ones I class as sluts are people who have already got a partner but decide to sleep around the block 24/7.
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Lowering the limit to such an extent, wouldn't give the mother the chance to fully decide on the decision, and would probably lead to more rushed, regretful abortions...
Agreed that fully illegalising it will revert back to the awful back street abortions..
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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..those are people who cheat on their partners and don't have much respect for themselves...slut is a very overused word...
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Biologically, we have those organs to reproduce and keep our species going. Therefore if you intend to use those organs, you should be mature enough to deal with the consequences. |
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Well it's not hurting anyone so no it doesn't bother me.
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Such an emotive subject. I personally could never have an abortion, regardless of circumstance BUT I do think that it is a completely personal decision.
Legal limits should be dropped dramatically, I actually do not know how anyone can abort a child at the upper limits now as the mother would have felt that child move by then.. I also can't imagine carrying a baby to term and then giving it up either. What I can't believe is that you can have an abortion later than the already crazyily late 24 weeks for certain medical conditions which are not life threatening such as a cleft lip!!! |
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You can have your opinions, he is entitled to choose to laugh at them as is anyone.
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No one's saying that you should only have sex for reproduction but if you're going to have sex at all, be prepared to face the consequences. And if you can't then why have it at all? It's just piss poor thinking.
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every abortion is a tragedy and is a dead baby. Thats just the truth of the matter. I voted for relative morality , give women as much option and info as possible, also allow the father to be a voice in the overall discussion. i would also reduce it from 24 weeks. a 24 week year old baby is pretty much a fully formed baby. whats the difference between killing it inside or outside the womb?
it needs to become less of a male v female issue. everything must be included in evaluating it. also I reject the suggestion its insulting to women to have more options available to them. I dont care a damn about offending women or anyone, we are talking life and death and ego must go out the window. obviously if the mothers health is at risk and abortion is the medical recommendation thats 100% fine. if shes raped and she wants an abortion, get it done as early as possible. but anything else I would fight to ensure the abortion clinic and all the medical staff take everyhting into account , including the fathers feelings about having his child being aborted, they should be offering all options to the mother, then within the limit she has the ultimate decision. personally Id show the mother to be photos of aborted babies. she needs to be fully aware that a life is being taken |
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I agree. Especially because nowadays smaller and smaller, more premature babies can actually survive outside of the womb.
Last edited by Marsh.; 06-11-2012 at 10:16 PM. |
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Either way, condoms are not 100% effective so there's always a chance that pregnancy could be on the cards.
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but I wouldnt call a beautiful baby a consequence, would you? This conversation was outlawed under labours politicallly correct radicalism. it must be discussed. also photos of terminated babies should be made public and shown to all mothers considering abortion |
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The huge majority of abortions are carried out before the 12 week mark. Only around 10% are done after 13 weeks. An abortion done after this time is more likely to be a case of the child having disabilities (which sometimes cannot be picked up on until your 20 week scan) or it turns out continuing with the pregnancy would cause health risks to the mother, or someone not finding out they were pregnant until very late. So to me, the argument on lowering the time limit...well its kinda self regulating anyway to begin with.
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It is quite upsetting though to think that a child born at 24 weeks has a ~40% chance of survival (with a lot of medical intervention..and would usually have severe disabilities as a result of such a premature birth though) whereas terminations can be carried out up until this time too. I am pro-choice, however I detest those who have multiple abortions, as clearly they do not take it as seriously as it is. I also do not understand why people would continue to have abortions rather than use contraception in future...as abortions are extremely painful, both physically and mentally. Edit. I also hold the (usually quite unpopular) opinion that a childs father should also have a say in things like this. At the moment it is only down to the woman. While it is her body and her health that would be affected by continuing with the pregnancy, I do not think it is right for the father to have no say at all in the life of his baby. Last edited by Vicky.; 06-11-2012 at 10:22 PM. |
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Ross Gellar had the same problem. He didn't read the packet which told him condoms aren't 100% effective.
Last edited by Marsh.; 06-11-2012 at 10:21 PM. |
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